z987k
Well-Known Member
This is true. The companies that value human life over the dollar generally don't. Statistically about the most dangerous thing you can do is take the FO out of the airplane.
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Screaming_Emu
Well-Known Member
Is that decision driven by a safety culture or by insurance rates?
Also, I forget who mentioned it earlier, but yeah a CRJ probably is easier to fly single pilot than probably any turboprop. But if that's the reason you think the second pilot is in the flight deck, it's time for a CRM class. Not to belittle non airline guys, but the stakes are a bit higher when you're flying 50+ people around than it is flying a chieftain full of horse semen in the middle of the night.
The primary purpose of the second pilot is to catch errors, reducing the workload is only part of that.
gotWXdagain
Polished Member
I'd fly a CRJ single pilot over a Metro single pilot in any flight situation.
Inverted
mmmmmm wine
Safety culture. Over 700 airplanes and no fatalities, they intend on keeping it that way. The airplane filled a gap in the company's business model. The fact it could be flown single pilot wasn't even in the realm of consideration.
FlyingScot
Spanish Proficient
alaskadrifter
Landing gear operator
I'm ashamed to admit all I did was slap on an Instagram filter, you guys are such great photographers. In other news I'm headed home tomorrow!
FlyingScot
Spanish Proficient
Exactly what I was thinking. Having since learned how to operate a coupled autopilot (or rather still learning how to, law of primacy), I find it so much easier to push buttons, monitor the approach and adjust power lever's than hand flying an airplane as you had to do in the metro.
Generally agreed. Anyone that talks about safety and insists on single pilot flying is just paying lip service to the word. I still fly mostly single pilot but have the option to bring a copilot. I usually don't feel the need except when the days are exceeding 10 hours or multiple long days. It's nice to have a second "pilot" in the right seat. Eventually some of the Amflight FOs became an asset in the cockpit, I remember at least two whose only qualifications was a pile of American currency and a pencil whipped checkride, they would have never made it through any aviation program they were not paying for. Sometimes you did not realize how bad they were until they swapped a com or nav freq when you weren't looking or let go of the nose wheel steering button on a metro way too early almost departing the runway.
I really don't think AMFlight will try to fly the RJ single pilot, I'm just being a wookie troll.
Just so I don't get accused of thread drift.
Here is a photo from my trip yesterday.
Here is a picture of my FO pleased to have the opportunity to sit in my desk and visit Mexico for the first time.
Slow your roll, Tiger. What I was implying was this; The day that an operator can legally remove a crewmember from an airplane they will. They did it with the 747 (4, then 3, now 2), the DC-10 (3, now 2), among others. At some point down the road, the airplanes that we see being crewed by 2 will become crewed by 1. And if they ever get the flying public on board, we'll see an automated passenger carrying airplane in our time. THAT is what I was saying.
Now pay an airplane tax, or something. This IS the daily pic.
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
All the same things were said when they took the 3rd and 4th body out of the 747. They're landing UAV's on aircraft carriers. It's coming. In our lifetime. Maybe JC will still be around when it does.
FlyingScot
Spanish Proficient
AAPalmTree
Well-Known Member
Indeed. Totally broken. My bad. Here's my tax:
This is called "Odegaard's Pride". This will be featured in several FBO's around the country, and most recently placed in Infinite Air Center in Albany, Oregon.
alaskadrifter
Landing gear operator
@Cheechako Just happened to be flying the IAH SEA leg on my way home to Ak, and he let me sit up front and hangout during preflight. It was a blast and I couldn't wipe the smile off my face the whole flight!!!
FlyingScot
Spanish Proficient
On my most recent trip to Mexico. The inflight meal of sandwiches was confiscated upon landing. The customs woman took the tray and came back with an inventoried list of the sandwiches quantified and weighed with the official stamp of the Mexican Customs. On the plus side this was the only transaction that did not require a fee or bribe.
FlyingScot
Spanish Proficient
Normally I would try that, but they made us remove all luggage from the plane and then went through the entire plane. I do not think it was food they were looking for but valuables. The aircraft owner had brought a drone that was "taxed". I was too busy running around closing flight plans, paying fees and getting thing stamped in triplicate to negotiate a better price on the tax.
It's not like we were going to eat any of the food onboard. I was just hoping to let the soldiers eat it on the ramp rather than inventoried and thrown away. I had a cooler filled with some Trader Joe goodies in the cockpit that escaped detection, that I was able to hook up the DGAC rep with.
