Dad's idea

DE727UPS said:
"Your father's error is that he doesn't know aviaiton"

You can't touch a 172 for 25K but that will get you a nice 150/152. You can burn auto fuel and save about half what avgas costs you. No need for a hanger, tiedowns work fine, just a little more work if it snows. If you can make friends with a free lance mechanic looking for some flight time, that can help a lot of maintanence costs. Also, if you know anyone in the same boat as your with the same goals, a partnership my work.
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All of the above are true.

I keep mine at an outside hangar and get mechaincal for super cheap. I trade aircraft time for mechaincal time.

You'll be amazed at how many friends you get when you own an airplane.
 
You guys are too weird.

For all intensive purposes, irregardless of what word he used, it wasn't to hard to under stand.

( :) )
 
DE727UPS said:
"Bring it out to Arizona. JC Flight school!"

The only reason I haven't sold my poor 152 aerobat that I never fly is cause I think I'll be spending a lot of time in PHX after I upgrade and it might work out to take it down there.
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That's on my aircraft list for what I'm going to have in my future hangar. Those are awesome planes.
 
I was going to try to throw in a bad run-on sentence, but I always do by default.
 
Insurance is about $800 a year and my annual was $1500. Annuals are more often around $1000. I burn auto gas. Flew the plane 40 hours last year, most of that was finishing up a guys IFR rating. If you look at personal use, it was probably more like 20 hours. No doubt, if you don't fly a lot, you should rent. And what did I do this year? Go buy another friggen airplane.....gahhhh.
 
DE727UPS said:
Insurance is about $800 a year and my annual was $1500. Annuals are more often around $1000. I burn auto gas. Flew the plane 40 hours last year, most of that was finishing up a guys IFR rating. If you look at personal use, it was probably more like 20 hours. No doubt, if you don't fly a lot, you should rent. And what did I do this year? Go buy another friggen airplane.....gahhhh.
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You can run auto gas on a 152 with no problems???????????????
 
Well....legally, you have to buy an STC, which costs about $150. But it's just a piece of paper and there is nothing physically done to the airplane other than a new placard by the fuel cap that says you can burn auto gas or 100LL. With the 152, you have to burn high grade auto gas. The 150, with the lower compression O-200, can burn the lower grade.

I've been burning autogas in a variety of small planes for years with no problems other than pissing off airport managers who don't like it. FBO's don't like it when you don't buy their expensive avgas and they complain to the airport managers. Got kicked off of Boeing field in Seattle cause of that.
 
I own my airplane with 4 other guys. Cost us each about $6k to buy the thing. All yearly costs...hangar, mx, annual, insurance...is about $800 per year per person. Then about $30 per hour to fly for gas and oil.

A great way to fly inexpensively.
 
Ya know, if you really want to get hog wild with the whole buying an airplane to train in idea, you could always buy a light training twin like a Seminole and put it on the line at a local flight school as a trainer, and then fly whenever and wherever you want. Of course, this opens up an entirely new and extra-wriggley can of worms vis-a-vis maintenance, financial complications, and legal responsibilities, not to mention that if you don't already have a PPL you probably don't want to do your initial training in a twin, but it does have one huge atvantage: It's cheap!

And I don't mean it's cheap while you own it, oh heavens no! While you own it it will be a nightmare of costs, parts, schedules, customers, etc., And you probably won't make much (if anything) off it while it's on a flight school line. But when you get the multi-hours you need, and sell the wretched thing off, you will ultimately have spent way, way, less than having bought the time out-of-pocket. You may have even made a piddly amount. Best of all, you'll have the multi-time to get hired at a regoinal, cargo outfit, or some other kinda job that'll get you the turbine PIC for an airline gig. If Daddy-O is willing to foot the bill, maybe you can toss the idea up to him?

I dunno. Just a thought. Whadda you guys think?
 
"you could always buy a light training twin like a Seminole"

I knew a kid that did this while in college but it was an Apache and he free lanced in it, no flight school leaseback. He went to Mesa and got on at Delta at very young age. Then got furloughed after 9/11. Heard he was doing very well in corporate flying these days.
 
Kind of a short guy, was a -1900 captain when I first was hired, did a lot of "The Simpsons" impressions, flew C-130's in the guard... ring any bells? :)
 
Doug Taylor said:
You guys are too weird.

For all intensive purposes, irregardless of what word he used, it wasn't to hard to under stand.

( :) )
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My one time grammar goon squad remark: It's UNDERSTAND! Do you understand? :sarcasm:
 
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