CSIP

spoolinup22

spoolinup22

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Anyone have theirs?

I'm in a position where I could get mine, but I don't know how valuable it is. Granted I would have to pay for it (I know this is a huge negative, but let's not discuss this fact) but I would receive a substantial pay increase per hour when I would teach in the Cirrus. The place that wants me to get it claims that they are way behind on Cirrus instructors (not from what I can tell but not 100%).

So basically, tell me your thoughts on CSIPs.
 
Just make sure that if your not an independent CFI, the company your working for pays you what the CSIP certification is worth. The ones in my area charge 45-50 per hour with the normal CFI being 35 an hour.
 
I just switched from a Cessna flight school to a Cirrus flight school and had to pay my own way through transition training... it sucked but in the end i think it will be worth it as it will round out my flight instruction experience so that in the future if I get furloughed or laid off somewhere I have more options to look for work as an instructor. The TAA time will help make the next leap a little bit easier. And the plane is just flat out awesome to fly.

With that said be careful about calling yourself a CSIP if you haven't actually gone through the Cirrus factory CSIP training. The way it was explained to me was that I was NOT a CSIP but rather proficient in Cirrus aircraft enough to instruct for them but outside of the flight school I was not to call myself a CSIP... still looking into that but thats what I was told.
 
PropSettin' said:
be worth it as it will round out my flight instruction experience so that in the future if I get furloughed or laid off somewhere I have more options to look for work as an instructor.

With that said be careful about calling yourself a CSIP if you haven't actually gone through the Cirrus factory CSIP training. The way it was explained to me was that I was NOT a CSIP but rather proficient in Cirrus aircraft enough to instruct for them but outside of the flight school I was not to call myself a CSIP... still looking into that but thats what I was told.
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Good thought about the first idea, never thought of that.

Why could you not call yourself a CSIP outside of the school? I could possibly see that if you did the In-house training through an approved Cirrus place, but if you went to Duluth I'm pretty sure you could call yourself CSIP regardless. Gotta love lawyers
 
You are correct. If you go to Duluth and do the factory training you are for sure a CSIP... if you just get 6 or 7 hours in a -20 and do the CATS course on the computer you might not quite be an official CSIP.

I was told if any of my students purchase an airplane from Cirrus to ask to take their transition training (since they already received it from me in our rental planes) and use the credit towards a factory-CSIP training program in Duluth. Not sure how it all works but i guess its possible.
 
And just as I post that I see that in a stack of paperwork they gave me yesterday I got a certificate for completing the course requirements to be a CSIP haha... so i guess its official

They did tell me in my interview that I cant call myself a CSIP outside of the school though. Probably so that I cant freelance Cirrus stuff and take biz away from them.
 
Like some other aircraft, Cirrus insurance typically requires more regular training than the FR. And, whether the insurance requires it or not, Cirrus recommends its owners get their training from a CSIP. Not that CSIP training is perfect, but that's good marketing and the owners pay attention.

Whether it's a good idea for a particular instructor depends on a number of business variables like the number of Cirrus owners in your area and the availability of other training options.
 
TFaudree_ERAU said:
I love marketing ploys and insurance scams
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One could look at the unfortunate Cirrus accident rate and reach the conclusion that the insurance requirement for more regular recurrent training is no scam but that the CSIP program needs a little work (that's not intended to be a flame; I was a member of the Cirrus Pilot's Association - not a CSIP - and know how committed they are to improvement).
 
MidlifeFlyer said:
One could look at the unfortunate Cirrus accident rate and reach the conclusion that the insurance requirement for more regular recurrent training is no scam (one can look at the overall GA accident rate and give kudos for anything that requires better training) but that the CSIP program needs a little work (that's not intended to be a flame; I was a member of the Cirrus Pilot's Association - not a CSIP - and know how committed they are to improvement).
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