pilatus028
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FAR 61.1 (3) Cross-country time means -
(i) except as proviveded in paragraphs (b)(3)(ii), (iii), (iv), and (v) of this section, time acquired during a flight -
(A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;
(B) Conducted in an aircraft;
(C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; and
(D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.
I'm doing my commercial under part 141 at the moment. I've already done the required cross countries, with the 50NM distance and the long one with the 250 NM. My question is this, if I was out one day doing a quick flight and I just happened to land at the airport right smack next doork, let's say only 16NM away from my home base would I be able to log that as Cross Country time? And if so, let's say I was asked by the 141 lesson to do touch and go's at another airport other than the depature point, but it doesn't specify as a cross country can I still log it as cross country? That's about it there, I'll ask more as I see the responses.
FAR 61.51 (g) Logging instrument flight time.
(1) A person may log instrument time only for that flight time when the person operates the aircraft solely by reference to instruments under actual or simulated instrument flight conditions.
I heard an examiner once say that as a pilot in the Miami area when you're on your way to Fort Myers and your flying through a pitch black sky you can log the time as simulated imc. Would you consider this true? It's like saying your flying a C402 to Cancun from Key West and during the black night and you have no way of telling what's up from down unless you look @ your instruments despite visibility is 10SM plus.
And one more thing....
FAR 61.51 (e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time.
(4) a student pilot may log pilot-in-command time only when the sudent pilot -
(i) Is the sole occupant of the aircraft....
(ii) Has current solo flight endorsement as required under 61.55 of this part; and
(iii) Is undergoing training for a pilot certificate or rating.
I ask this because I'm looking back at the logbook and I had my solo endorsement awhile before the Practical and I noticed that the flights that I did with my instructor after those solo flights are only dual, shouldn't they also have PIC? Now I have my liscense and I log both PIC and Dual when I fly with my instructor, but is it legal to go back and change it or is it right the way it is?
Another thing, I'm not going to change my logbook I did the totals in pen and I am not the person who is going to change a few hours and make a mess. But for future ocasions can you say it would be better to do the totals in pencil or just stick to pen? Probably a question more towards the airline guys and gals.
Thanks allot!
Clem
(i) except as proviveded in paragraphs (b)(3)(ii), (iii), (iv), and (v) of this section, time acquired during a flight -
(A) Conducted by a person who holds a pilot certificate;
(B) Conducted in an aircraft;
(C) That includes a landing at a point other than the point of departure; and
(D) That involves the use of dead reckoning, pilotage, electronic navigation aids, radio aids, or other navigation systems to navigate to the landing point.
I'm doing my commercial under part 141 at the moment. I've already done the required cross countries, with the 50NM distance and the long one with the 250 NM. My question is this, if I was out one day doing a quick flight and I just happened to land at the airport right smack next doork, let's say only 16NM away from my home base would I be able to log that as Cross Country time? And if so, let's say I was asked by the 141 lesson to do touch and go's at another airport other than the depature point, but it doesn't specify as a cross country can I still log it as cross country? That's about it there, I'll ask more as I see the responses.
FAR 61.51 (g) Logging instrument flight time.
(1) A person may log instrument time only for that flight time when the person operates the aircraft solely by reference to instruments under actual or simulated instrument flight conditions.
I heard an examiner once say that as a pilot in the Miami area when you're on your way to Fort Myers and your flying through a pitch black sky you can log the time as simulated imc. Would you consider this true? It's like saying your flying a C402 to Cancun from Key West and during the black night and you have no way of telling what's up from down unless you look @ your instruments despite visibility is 10SM plus.
And one more thing....
FAR 61.51 (e) Logging pilot-in-command flight time.
(4) a student pilot may log pilot-in-command time only when the sudent pilot -
(i) Is the sole occupant of the aircraft....
(ii) Has current solo flight endorsement as required under 61.55 of this part; and
(iii) Is undergoing training for a pilot certificate or rating.
I ask this because I'm looking back at the logbook and I had my solo endorsement awhile before the Practical and I noticed that the flights that I did with my instructor after those solo flights are only dual, shouldn't they also have PIC? Now I have my liscense and I log both PIC and Dual when I fly with my instructor, but is it legal to go back and change it or is it right the way it is?
Another thing, I'm not going to change my logbook I did the totals in pen and I am not the person who is going to change a few hours and make a mess. But for future ocasions can you say it would be better to do the totals in pencil or just stick to pen? Probably a question more towards the airline guys and gals.
Thanks allot!
Clem