crewbag in a CRJ

Don't mean to sound like a bitch here, but it's a SERIOUS fed violation to store baggage in galley food carts. The carts are not approved baggage stowage compartments. Not only is it against FAA rules, but, as pointed out above, it makes it really easy for your bag to 'roll away'.

As a former F/A instructor, I just had to tell y'all that.

I know it's done, but I didn't allow it on my planes when I worked. A commuting F/A to MSP once tried to tell me it was okay for her to put her kit bag in an oven. I politely told her, no, it was not okay, and that I'd be more than happy to help her find some overhead space.

Actually, this thread reminded me of a couple captains who, in protest of the company's rule to not allow crews to put their bags in the closet of the EMB, started using padlocks & chains on their bags in cargo to keep the rampers from taking them out. The company got the message, and got sick of having crew backs chained to the baggage nets, and changed the rule to 'allow' crews to stow bags in the closet.
 
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Don't mean to sound like a bitch here, but it's a SERIOUS fed violation to store baggage in galley food carts. The carts are not approved baggage stowage compartments. Not only is it against FAA rules, but, as pointed out above, it makes it really easy for your bag to 'roll away'.

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What a stupid rule. Hey, if they'll safely hold stuff as hazardous as airline food, certainly they can adequately contain two-day old stinky socks!
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Don't mean to sound like a bitch here, but it's a SERIOUS fed violation to store baggage in galley food carts. The carts are not approved baggage stowage compartments. Not only is it against FAA rules, but, as pointed out above, it makes it really easy for your bag to 'roll away'.

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What a stupid rule. Hey, if they'll safely hold stuff as hazardous as airline food, certainly they can adequately contain two-day old stinky socks!
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Also we're talking about crew bags here, which are NOT considered baggage, even for weight and balance considerations.

I would think that you would get an inaccurate count of bags very often if there are crew bags being thrown in the back.

Crew bags are considered part of the Basic Operating Weight, right?
 
At XJT, if they go in the cargo bin, they go on the load sheet. Doesn't matter if they're crew bags or Joe's snowboard.
 
They go on there because it is a CG issue. Yes, they are really being "double counted" since they are considered part of the BOW, but that just means you are being conservative.
 
Where the rule comes from isn't with bag counts or weight, it has to do with what the compartment something is being stowed in is made to hold. A galley cart is not designed for stowing a suitcase (of any shape, size) therefore, it is not an FAA approved location to stow a suitcase (of any shape/size) in. The only places in the cabin that baggage (ANY baggage) can be stowed, are locations that are designed/meant for stowing bags in.

At AA we had this DRIVEN into our brains, because there had been feds ramp checking F/As and giving out personal fines for the F/As having bags stowed in galley carts. F/As were particularly fond of having their kit bags in a cart in the FWD galley on the MD-80.

I didn't write the rule, I just know that we taught new hires not to stow bags in galley carts, and that feds were issuing fines for it.
 
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