Crash Investigators Pan Their Casting as Villains in ‘Sully’

mshunter said:
"The NTSB was not approached to contribute *blah blah blah*"

Maybe if they seemed more approachable? Dunno, just guessing.
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Have you actually tried approaching them? I have no idea how "approachable" they are, because I haven't had to deal with them...but between an organization that's historically been pretty effective and objective and a movie that needs a villain...I'm inclined to believe that maybe Hollywood isn't portraying the whole story. But that's just me.
 
zmiller4 said:
Have you actually tried approaching them? I have no idea how "approachable" they are, because I haven't had to deal with them...but between an organization that's historically been pretty effective and objective and a movie that needs a villain...I'm inclined to believe that maybe Hollywood isn't portraying the whole story. But that's just me.
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Yes, I've been to 2 NTSB hearings. I haven't found one yet that is approachable.
 
zmiller4 said:
For a while we referred to geese as a "flock of sullys". It was funny until One day we hit one going real fast and it busted all the rivets out of the front of our sweet ass CRJ200.
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I hit a chimney swift in a 900 just in front of the ADG hatch while on short final, heard the thump and felt it through the rudder pedals. I can only imagine what a goose sounded and felt like.
 
Ask Bob Hoover about how to approach the Federales. I've no idea, but it strikes me as entirely believable that the Man was looking for his scalp until the political winds shifted. I say this as someone who has had only good experiences with the FAA, but I've also only had good experiences with cops, and we know of at least one instance of a cop shooting an old guy who sort of shuffling away, although I suppose it was written up as "running".

It's a complex set of circumstances, and I have great sympathy for the Feds (NTSB and FAA, although they quite often don't agree, which a whole different kettle of fish) who have to deal with the politics of these things. But it's worth remembering that there inevitably ARE politics to/in the process. Upshot being, do I think it's crazy-out-of-left-field that their first instinct was to hang it all on Admiral Moustache? Nope. And this is all independent of my personal low-level-but-very-real suspicion of a guy seems like he was just waiting and hoping to ditch an airplane so he could get on the speaking circuit...
 
Boris Badenov said:
Nope. And this is all independent of my personal low-level-but-very-real suspicion of a guy seems like he was just waiting and hoping to ditch an airplane so he could get on the speaking circuit...
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Interesting thought Boris. Care to elaborate?
 
zmiller4 said:
Have you actually tried approaching them? I have no idea how "approachable" they are, because I haven't had to deal with them...but between an organization that's historically been pretty effective and objective and a movie that needs a villain...I'm inclined to believe that maybe Hollywood isn't portraying the whole story. But that's just me.
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My experience having been the owner of an aircraft that was involved in a fatal accident was nothing but positive. They were sympathetic, yet organized, and very effective in communicating with us along the way.

I've also worked with the arm of their organization that focuses on disaster recovery and the handling of friends/relatives, and that group is strong as well.

My bet is on embellishment.
 
A Canadian Goose produces, on average, a half pound of poop per day. They travel & live in flocks (a.k.a. 'gaggles'), compounding the situation.

Several New Jersey corporate heliports, including Dow-Jones's near Princeton, have 'hired' Border Collies to de-goose the pads. The Borders herd the geese back into the pond, repeatedly. The geese like to live around ponds, but not stay in them 24/7. They therefore move to someone else's cornfield and pond, farther from the helipad. An elegant, environmentally-sound solution.
 
Hmmmm
 

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