Crash in Hawthorne, CA

Isn't there some kind of setup with Cirrus where you can plug your Ipod in and use it as a CVR? Not sure how well an Ipod would hold up in a crash though....
 
What could maybe be done instead would be a voice recorder on the intercom and a couple video cameras mounted externally to record the flight control surface deflections, pitch/bank attitude, flight visibility, approximate altitude and speed, etc.

1) Camera - No thanks.
2) CVR - That's great until I turn everything (master) off. If I'm flying a piston single, it's probably beautiful Day VFR and I'm going somewhere to has a cheezburger.

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1) Camera - No thanks.

Just curious...why? If it's a personal privacy issue you're concerned with, notice I said *external* cameras. I was thinking of mounting them in a bubble on the roof, similar to a GPS antenna.

2) CVR - That's great until I turn everything (master) off.

That would be easy to design around. Battery backup.

If I'm flying a piston single, it's probably beautiful Day VFR and I'm going somewhere to has a cheezburger.

I don't understand what your point is. Accidents happen in all types of weather, not to mention not all pilots have the same mission as you.

I was referring to what it would take to monitor the multitude of charter, corporate, cargo, and newer personal use aircraft flying around without any way to record data.
 
It wouldn't be that hard to implement in an integrated glass cockpit like the G1000 or Avadyne v9. The thing is it would probably be too heavy/bulky and expensive to put transport category caliber recorders as far as crash/ fire protection goes. All you'd need is some sort of solid state storage that can take data from the AHRS units every so often. These units also have integrated engine monitoring in them as well, so that would be easy to record as well. Its just in the case of a severe post crash fire it would be nearly impossible to recover the data.
 
What a shame. The pilot was a CFI at my flight school at Hawthorne a few years back. RIP.

I'm very interested in finding out what happened. It appears that they impacted a couple of hundred yards south of 25 (which I presume was the active, as it almost always is), but facing east.
 
Wow my dad was just able to call me today about this.:(

He is down on a trip to visit the plant that makes the wing skins for the 747 and he was standing in the doorway 10 minutes before it crashed into the building.

He just left but the HR lady he was talking to just got in her car and I guess the tail hit the passenger side just before she started up and drove away.

She said one was still alive and had a weak pulse but once the fire and ambulance got there they all died. :( At first they thought only two were aboard because the pilot was apparently smashed into the panel so hard they didn't know he was there. They also noted that there wasn't any smell of fuel when they got there.
 
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