Covid shots now required at UA

I'm a vax proponent, but I don't think people should be forced to take it.

We're still the guinea pigs. The FDA hasn't fully approved the shots.

My wife took the J&J the first week of April and immediately developed a heart inflammation. It hasn't gone away. It has been very scary for her and changed her quality of life. She awakes at night with her heart quivering.

I don't like the thought of other people experiencing anything similar because they were forced to in order to keep their jobs.
 
ASADispatch said:
The liability will be 100% on the employee.
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These probably arent the last or only vaccines for this virus. Pfizer and Moderna are both saying theirs are likely a yearly vaccine for the rest of eternity with random vaccines thrown in if a variant is found to be resistant. I think when that realization becomes widespread is when these issues will be taken up the unions. A one time deal is much different than a lifetime one.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
These probably arent the last or only vaccines for this virus. Pfizer and Moderna are both saying theirs are likely a yearly vaccine for the rest of eternity with random vaccines thrown in if a variant is found to be resistant. I think when that realization becomes widespread is when these issues will be taken up the unions. A one time deal is much different than a lifetime one.
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They say their vaccine is 93% effective for 6 months. It will be a twice a year booster.
 
ASADispatch said:
They say their vaccine is 93% effective for 6 months. It will be a twice a year booster.
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You might be right. It is currently unknown how many for sure but Pfizer and Moderna both say at least one per year is likely. The focus has been on getting everyone the current vaccines in the hope that it ends the need for restrictions. In reality its becoming clear that this is a long term problem.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
You might be right. It is currently unknown how many for sure but Pfizer and Moderna both say at least one per year is likely. The focus has been on getting everyone the current vaccines in the hope that it ends the need for restrictions. In reality its becoming clear that this is a long term problem.
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This virus will never go away. There will be some immunity built up like we have with the flu. A yearly shot for those with weakened immune systems or those who want to lessen impact of the virus. But to make it mandatory for employees to get it is ridiculous.
 
QXDX said:
So, we have the government and the private sector mandating an experimental vaccine on the masses, but washing their hands of it if something goes wrong.
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Read the actual language.

It’s only mandatory pending approval. And once it’s fully approved, it’s no longer ”experimental”.

You don’t have to stop dispatching, you can either get a vaccine or seek similar employment at another shop.
 
Derg said:
Read the actual language.

It’s only mandatory pending approval. And once it’s fully approved, it’s no longer ”experimental”.

You don’t have to stop dispatching, you can either get a vaccine or seek similar employment at another shop.
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So you want people from low risk groups to be fired for not taking a vaccine when in most cases they would have had no symptoms or minor symptoms regardless of vaccine and it does nothing to stop them from spreading it to others? Union workers are supposed to be united with their union brothers, not actively cheering management on firing union workers. Covid has fried too many brains.
 
Flagship_dxer said:
So you want people from low risk groups to be fired for not taking a vaccine when in most cases they would have had no symptoms or minor symptoms regardless of vaccine and it does nothing to stop them from spreading it to others? Union workers are supposed to be united with their union brothers, not actively cheering management on firing union workers. Covid has fried too many brains.
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Union workers should be protecting fellow union workers' lives first. I don't understand why mandating this vaccination (especially once it is fully approved) is such a controversial issue. Vaccine mandates have existed for decades.
 
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