Coporate College Degree Preference

n57flyguy

n57flyguy

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Not to get in the way of more important things, but would "the average"
corporate outfit flying a Ciation, King AIr, or Lear prefer a 2 or four year degree? Any difference in the larger corporate aircraft(G IV/GV, Global Express)???? Thanks for any help you can give me, It might save me alot time a money in the long run.
 
My dad knows a guy who flies a GV for Randy Lerner (sp.) the owner of the Browns! When I meet him, I'll ask him what he thinks would be most sufficent.
 
You would be wise to get a 4 yr. degree in something besides Aviation. The reason for this is that the Chief Pilot will want to know what you are going to do for him when you are not flying. Therefore a 4 yr degree in Computer Science or Accounting or something along those lines will make you the candidate that will make his job easier, and that is what is all about ... how are you going to make the Boss's job easier.

Jim
 
C650CPT said:
You would be wise to get a 4 yr. degree in something besides Aviation. The reason for this is that the Chief Pilot will want to know what you are going to do for him when you are not flying. Therefore a 4 yr degree in Computer Science or Accounting or something along those lines will make you the candidate that will make his job easier, and that is what is all about ... how are you going to make the Boss's job easier.

Jim
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Thanks for all your help guys. I was first considering a 4 year degree in aviation but since have been advised its not a smart move. I just need to find somthing else (a degree) I would like to do besides flying, that would be valuable if all else failed. I have looked into aeronautical engineering or something relating to computers. Thanks alot guys.
 
Talked to a G5 captain, and flown a G5 sim with him! but I asked him and he said he has 2 years of credits at Embry when he was at Germany, But he has 8,000 hours and about 4,000 sim hours and is rated on 9 + aircraft(been giving ratings for G5 and G4s for nine years) food for thought:)
 
Sounds to me like he is a retired Army Warrant Officer, if that's the case you are not comparing apples to apples. There are no short cuts, only different paths to this career. If you are serious about longevity and quality opportunities in aviation ... GET A FOUR YEAR DEGREE!!!

Jim
 
C650CPT said:
Sounds to me like he is a retired Army Warrant Officer, if that's the case you are not comparing apples to apples. There are no short cuts, only different paths to this career. If you are serious about longevity and quality opportunities in aviation ... GET A FOUR YEAR DEGREE!!!

Jim
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Not to build tension but, did I say I wasn't getting a four year degree?
Of course I want longevity and quality aviation opportunities, I just wanted to know if a two year degree could get me those opportunities.
 
No tension here, actually it was more of a generalized statement for the masses. And yes you can get some great opportunities without the formal education. I am a prime example ... the exception to be sure. Without a doubt I could have and probably would have pursued other opportunities but lacking the four year degree has had its limits on my career.

Jim
 
C650CPT said:
. . . And yes you can get some great opportunities without the formal education. I am a prime example ... the exception to be sure. Without a doubt I could have and probably would have pursued other opportunities but lacking the four year degree has had its limits on my career.

Jim
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I was one of the few lucky ones that got into this job without a degree. I happened to know the right people and be in the right place at the right time. I have since realized that if I want to have any more opportunities in aviation, such as airlines or large corporate flight departments, then I will need a four year degree. I have resumed my college studies, and I am about halfway to finishing my economics degree online.

If you get an opportunity like me, then jump at the chance. But, you do need to finish the degree, even if it means taking online classes while you work. You will have plenty of time sitting around airports and hotels to complete the degree. I just wish I would have started my online studies much sooner. I sometimes have to sacrifice getting out to enjoy the places that I fly, but I believe it will be worth it in the long run when I have that degree in my pocket.
 
C650CPT said:
No tension here, actually it was more of a generalized statement for the masses. And yes you can get some great opportunities without the formal education. I am a prime example ... the exception to be sure. Without a doubt I could have and probably would have pursued other opportunities but lacking the four year degree has had its limits on my career.

Jim
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Peace is made:) I was always planing on getting a 4 year degree, and still will, but I do see your point to the masses and it is good advice. Thanks.

RynoB, Get that jet yet?
 
n57flyguy said:
RynoB, Get that jet yet?
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As a matter of fact, yes. I just finished CJ3 recurrent today. It was a lot of fun. Although, the company has been flying the jet all over without me.:( Now that I'm through with training I will be flying it shortly. Monday is my first scheduled flight in it.:nana2: Can't wait!
 
RynoB said:
As a matter of fact, yes. I just finished CJ3 recurrent today. It was a lot of fun. Although, the company has been flying the jet all over without me.:( Now that I'm through with training I will be flying it shortly. Monday is my first scheduled flight in it.:nana2: Can't wait!
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Have fun, try to get some pics for us, if you can. IM sooooo jelous.....:)
 
I've been told that some companies try to stay away from pilots with online degrees, such as "Alfa Flying" who flies several Pilatus A/C and a Motorola GV pilot said the same. Are most of the larger corporate gigs starting to feel the same way? When I picture a Chief pilot interviewing a handful of qualified pilots and three have online degrees and the other two have a full blown four year degrees from a University with time being near equal I'd see the edge going to the person who walked into class every day. Yay or Nay? Just asking, because I'm curious.
 
SkyJeff said:
I've been told that some companies try to stay away from pilots with online degrees, such as "Alfa Flying" who flies several Pilatus A/C and a Motorola GV pilot said the same. Are most of the larger corporate gigs starting to feel the same way? When I picture a Chief pilot interviewing a handful of qualified pilots and three have online degrees and the other two have a full blown four year degrees from a University with time being near equal I'd see the edge going to the person who walked into class every day. Yay or Nay? Just asking, because I'm curious.
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I wonder the same, good question. I would agree with you in someways, not to ofend anyone. I don't see why they would stay away from pilots with online degrees, but as you said, I guess they do. Anyone wish to comment?
 
I don't think that is necessarily true. I'm sure there are some places that think a "classroom degree" shows more dedication, but I think the opposite is true. If a person can accomplish, or finish, a degree online while holding down a full time job and taking care of a family, he has shown a great deal more discipline and commitment. Much more of a commitment than just showing up for class every day.
 
NJA_Capt said:
I don't think that is necessarily true. I'm sure there are some places that think a "classroom degree" shows more dedication, but I think the opposite is true. If a person can accomplish, or finish, a degree online while holding down a full time job and taking care of a family, he has shown a great deal more discipline and commitment. Much more of a commitment than just showing up for class every day.
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Yes, agreed. I don't know why a corporate outfit wouldn't want pilots who have online degrees. Remember, we can get caught up in these disscusions. Its not the degree, its the pilot. They don't care what the degree is in (some do because they want to see what esle you can do for them) its your skill and expierience (in hours) because in the end, thats what matters.
 
NJA_Capt said:
I don't think that is necessarily true. I'm sure there are some places that think a "classroom degree" shows more dedication, but I think the opposite is true. If a person can accomplish, or finish, a degree online while holding down a full time job and taking care of a family, he has shown a great deal more discipline and commitment. Much more of a commitment than just showing up for class every day.
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I'm a full-time student at a University where I walk into class everyday, holding down a full-time ramp job, taking care of my family, fixing my house thanks to Katrina and flying 2hrs a week. Will that show dedication in an interview? :)
 
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