Conversion question

Chris_Ford said:
.....South Korea, ..., the UAE, ....:)

Although I can't personally vouch for the UAE, ......(or even allowed) in all of those other listed countries.
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When in Seoul and Pusan, I cannot recall tipping. I know we did leave tips when we were at some places that were actually 'on base'.

When in the U.A.E. we stayed at the Hyatt Regency in Dubai. We also stayed at hotels in Abu Dhabi (sp?) and Jebel Ali. I personally tipped the hotel staff whenever we used their services. There was never any mention of it not being allowed.
 
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Chris_Ford said:
And tipping is a very US-centric custom. Yes, it's done in Europe (5-10% and only for exceptional service), but go to the rest of the world, and you'll see that people don't *expect* a tip.
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Chris_Ford said:
... In most of the world, ...
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Chris_Ford said:
... can we agree on "a considerable minority (plurality possibly?)" :)
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How about we agree that to convert knots to mph, you add 15%.


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I just discovered (in another thread) that my method of composing links to specific posts doesn't work quite right for this version of vBulletin software, so the above links to Post #16 and Post #20 actually point to Post #7, and just put the numbers 16 and 20, respectively, on that post. I apologize for any confusion they may have caused.

Since I can no longer edit Post #22, I'll provide New & Improved links here. (Of course, you could always just scroll up, but I was trying to make it convenient.)


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I promise to "test drive" all links in the future. :)





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"Singapore (at least as of last November), South Korea, China"

I thought Japan was the only place you weren't supposed to tip. I tipped the van drivers in all the above places within the last two months and they gladly took it. Think they were secretly offended?
 
DE727UPS said:
"Singapore (at least as of last November), South Korea, China"

I thought Japan was the only place you weren't supposed to tip. I tipped the van drivers in all the above places within the last two months and they gladly took it. Think they were secretly offended?
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Perhaps they're used to it? I had a friend just get back from Guangzhou, Bangkok and Singapore who assured me that tipping was not the norm there (and this was not his first trip to these locales) Besides, the original point was people in the US expect a tip (and employers expect their employees to be tipped) which I think is inherently flawed... But of course, it's custom, so I still tip (and I actually tip well since I've dated my fair share of waitresses and one way to make them mad is not tip well :) )

However, if you're in Japan and want to give a tip, I can PM you my address :D
 
Chris_Ford said:
... the original point was people in the US expect a tip (and employers expect their employees to be tipped) which I think is inherently flawed...
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I suppose your point was obscured by your assertion that people do not expect tips outside of the US and Europe. Since we have all that behind us now...


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A very good reason that waiters and waitresses expect a tip is the way the IRS handles tips. The IRS assumes that they will receive a 15% tip, and count that as income. Employers are required to report tip income, and will do so at the rate of 15% of sales. If you fail to tip a server for a $200 meal, the IRS will not care. The server will still pay taxes on that $30 of assumed income. Depending on the server's tax bracket, you will have in effect taken money from them by not tipping.





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TonyC said:
I suppose your point was obscured by your assertion that people do not expect tips outside of the US and Europe. Since we have all that behind us now...


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A very good reason that waiters and waitresses expect a tip is the way the IRS handles tips. The IRS assumes that they will receive a 15% tip, and count that as income. Employers are required to report tip income, and will do so at the rate of 15% of sales. If you fail to tip a server for a $200 meal, the IRS will not care. The server will still pay taxes on that $30 of assumed income. Depending on the server's tax bracket, you will have in effect taken money from them by not tipping.
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I'm not allowed into places where the waiters know how to file their own taxes. I'm usually at the Chili's and the like, where the waiters are 18-19ish :)
 
Chris_Ford said:
I'm not allowed into places where the waiters know how to file their own taxes. I'm usually at the Chili's and the like, where the waiters are 18-19ish :)
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If they get a paycheck, they get to file. :)





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Chris_Ford said:
Ever been to one of those places with a "tip calculator" on the bottom of the bill? I'm insulted by that, and often times use it as a reason to lower the tip.
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I love those little tip calculators - I think they're pretty convenient. Why are they insulting?

It's handy to see the tip calculated within the "customary" range if I choose to tip a "customary" amount...with the understanding that I can tip whatever I want, down to (and including) $0.00.

And to address the original poster's question: Get one of those sweet aviation watches with an E6B bezel on it. When your friends ask how fast you flew today, raise your wrist proudly and work the conversion. Or better yet, put a real E6B computer on a chain and wear it around your neck like Flavor Flav.

(Actually, I wore an E6B watch for years and I actually used it for time/fuel/distance on many occasions!)
 
TonyC said:
Not this daddy.



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Me, a few weeks before my 16th birthday: "Dad, can I have my own car?"
Dad: "Sure!"
Me: "How much can I spend?"
Dad: "How much you got?"

End of discussion.


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SteveC said:
Me, a few weeks before my 16th birthday: "Dad, can I have my own car?"
Dad: "Sure!"
Me: "How much can I spend?"
Dad: "How much you got?"

End of discussion.


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Good, I'm glad at least SOME people are telling their kids how it is... Someone needs to stop the "I'm entitled to ____ because I'm special" problem of my generation (I blame youth soccer, and not keeping score in T-Ball) :)
 
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