Continental, 1st major US Airline to order the 7E7

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HOUSTON, Dec. 29 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Continental Airlines (NYSE: CAL - News) today announced that it has reached agreement with Boeing to become the first major U.S. airline to order the Boeing 7E7 aircraft, with the first 7E7 to be delivered in 2009. The company's initial 7E7 order is for 10 aircraft.

"The 7E7 will be an important part of our international growth strategy," said Gordon Bethune, Continental's chairman and CEO. "With it we can continue to differentiate our award winning service and our consistently growing international network."

"The 7E7 is the widebody of the future for Continental and will provide the platform for our long-term international growth," said Larry Kellner, Continental's president and COO. "
 
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It makes sense. Continental is the legacy carrier that's in the best financial shape right now so they're probably the only US carrier with both the financial ability to pick up some 7E7s and the corporate structure where it makes sense.

I wonder how the 7E7 will fit in to the payscale? Will it slip in where the 757 and 767 are right now?

Oh, yeah, and more good news from Continental. A guy who is in my flying club just got his recall notice, effective February 15!
 
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Great news ... it's gonna look great in the CO livery too
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Continental pay for pilots is broken to narrow and widebody aircraft. 7E7 will fall under the widebody pay.

On a side note, as of 2005, they will only have 3 aircraft fleets: the 737s, 757/767s, and the 777s. Only 3 pilot groups, but in 2009, it'll be 4. But I'm sure Gordon has thought this out, and it won't make that big a difference.
 
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"crosses fingers"

C'mon Delta be the second US legacy to operate the 7E7. Man talk bout the 7E7 looking great in CO's livery. It would so rock in Delta house colors.

-Matthew
 
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I think the idea of a new SST might come after the 787. The 787 does look like a SST in development in my opinion.
 
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Brian that is the second or third time that I have noticed you refer to the 7E7 as the 787. Has Boeing officially renamed the 7E7 program the 787?

Matthew
 
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Not that I know of. But that is what it will probably be so might as well start calling it that. I don't think they would skip to 797 or 800.
 
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C'mon Delta be the second US legacy to operate the 7E7. Man talk bout the 7E7 looking great in CO's livery. It would so rock in Delta house colors.

-Matthew

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Who knows what the livery will be after the merger? But good for CO to at least act like they' ve got a future. Bethune is gone but he's been a big cheerleader for the 7E7.
 
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That just made my day. Check out the pic on Boeing.com, too.

Who's merging?
 
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Not yet. It may happen but for now they're calling it the 7E7.

I don't think you'll see any of the other legacy carriers buying this plane, whatever you want to call it, right away. They're either in or have flirted with bankruptcy so now is not the time to buy a new airplane.

Flyover, merger? What merger?

I think it'd be cool to have an airline called NorthAmeriContiDeltEdWays.
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It's be better if CAL merged with Aer Lingus. Overnights in Shannon, Dublin... think of all the Guinness! Not to mention the ladies attracted to the thought of flying on an airline named..... forget it I'm dreaming.
 
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Trust me. There's going to be a merger, or two, or three.
 
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It's be better if CAL merged with Aer Lingus. Overnights in Shannon, Dublin... think of all the Guinness! Not to mention the ladies attracted to the thought of flying on an airline named..... forget it I'm dreaming.

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What's wrong with ConiLingus?

I kind of think it has a ring to it.

And if the mods think this is over the PG-13 line, my bad.
 
Strangely, no one read behind the lines. If employees agree to concessions, CAL may order the 7E7...
 
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AIRCRAFT ORDER Q AND A
Dec. 29, 2005

Why are we leasing additional aircraft at the same time we are asking for $500 million in annual wage and benefit reductions?

We need to act now to take market share from our weaker competitors. The 757s have become available from Boeing because of the current bankruptcy of ATA, a lowcost competitor. The 737s have become available because American Airlines recently deferred delivery of them due to their financial challenges. Even after lengthy negotiations with Boeing, we were able to keep this opportunity available to us only until
Feb. 28, 2005, as Boeing will not hold these aircraft off the market indefinitely. If we don’t take these aircraft by then, someone else will — most likely a low-cost carrier.

We need to obtain board approval by Feb. 28, 2005, and with your help in making the business case, we can obtain these aircraft. They will help us avoid losing domestic market share to low-cost carriers as we shift our domestic 757-200 aircraft to grow our profitable international network. We don’t want to be forced down the path of our failing competitors, who are shrinking and ceding market share and jobs to low-cost carriers.
The Boeing agreement represents our belief in you and in the airline’s future.

While it is important to act quickly to survive the current industry downturn, we must plan and prepare for the future. We need to grow (we are currently only the fifthlargest U.S. airline) and become stronger to compete in the future. Should consolidation occur, we need to be in a position of strength. Adding international growth helps return us to profitability sooner and cements our position in the marketplace.

In the last seven years, low-cost carriers have significantly increased their market share, while legacy carriers (excluding CO) have shrunk by an average of 10 percent. However, CO has increased its mainline capacity by 25 percent over the same period. Our fleet utilization is already stretched, so to continue this growth, we need additional
aircraft. Prior to today’s announcement, our plans included only five replacement aircraft over the next three years, offering no prospect for any incremental growth.

By flying these 757 and 737 aircraft on high-density domestic flights, we can free up existing domestic aircraft to expand internationally. In addition, the long-range 7E7 represents the platform for further international growth in years to come.

Before we can justify and get approval from our board of directors for a growth strategy, we must first achieve a cost structure, with your help, which allows us to stop bleeding cash.

Is my pay being cut in order to fund the new aircraft?

No. The 757 and 737 aircraft are all being leased with no cash upfront. The 7E7 will not be coming for another four years.

CO needs $500 million in wage and benefit reductions in order to avoid a cash crisis and to remain competitive in the permanently restructured, low-fare pricing environment. The wage reductions will help CO maintain a competitive cost structure that allows us to grow and once again achieve profitability.

If you’re not using my pay cut, where is the money coming from that will fund these aircraft?

Boeing continues to be a great business partner of CO. Because of our strong relationship, CO can lease the additional 757 and 737 aircraft with no cash upfront. This means we don’t have to spend any money to get the aircraft. In addition, Boeing has also agreed to finance the 757 conversion costs, such as repainting the exteriors and reconfiguring the interiors to CO’s standards.

The first 7E7 delivery is four years away. Although Boeing has announced the list price of the 10 7E7s as $1.3 billion, CO will receive a significant discount as a preferred launch customer. We believe that with a competitive cost structure we will be able to finance these aircraft on attractive terms when deliveries start in 2009.
 
Eh! I really think that CO needs the 7E7 right now they only have the 757-200, maybe 20 something 777 for international service along with a few aging 767-200's.
The article even said that getting the 757-300's would free up CO's 757-200's for international service. Dunno bout you but I wouldn't want to fly ina 757-200 or even 300 international. Sounds like CO shoulda purchased the 767-300ER couple of years back...but oh well that what the 7E7's a for.
As for mergers most realistically a DL/CO merger would make the most sense!

Matthew
 
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