Considering changing my career plans.

Dont forget there are different sorts of regional opportunities than the major ones. I work for a regional up here in Anchorage where I am home every night, have a decent schedule. The starting pay is decent where I am. But Ravn just upped the ante by starting FOs out at $50/hr. One nice thing about my current employer is you can start out right seat in the SAAB at about 800 hours. We operate two SAAB freighters on the 135 side. It provides a great opportunity to build time, and then move over to passenger operations.

I have been here 9 months and am number 13 on the seniority list, and here is my schedule for May.
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800? Grrrr. I have to put some more hours in and call you!
 
There's tons of ways to still stay involved. I decided to work for an aircraft manufacture on the business side (pending graduation in 9 days!), but have also been hired as an instructor there and so I will see what happens. More to aviation than just airline pilots!
 
ATC is pretty damn awesome just from my limited involvement in it. However, it's a total crap shoot to get on with the FAA. Even if you do military ATC, you're guaranteed nothing, not even a shot at it. So I wouldn't recommend that be a main career "focus" per say. That being said, some of the ramp towers that do Ramp Control as well as operations(assigning common use) pay very well and can get you up to 6 figures with OT. Most fun I've ever had short of flying, plus nothing is ever your fault. :)

As far as flying jobs go, find another source of income and a job nearby and life will surely be much better. Even with all the legitimate complaints, I still think airline pilots have it better than most in the big picture of things with pay and domicile displacement being the only 2 big negatives that ultimately made me decide not to put all my eggs in one basket. However, if you have another steady income, the first few years of poor pay won't be so bad, and if crap hits the fan and you're facing a crazy commute you have no intentions to take, you can always just leave and find another flying job since you don't "depend" on the job, you just do it because you love it.

Easier said than done I know, but pilots are usually very sharp and determined people who work hard to achieve goals and adapt well to change. Chances are, you could figure something out. Just be sure to network outside aviation(or outside of flying anyway), empower people beneath you, and find out the passions, goals, dreams, and resources of your friends and see how you can put them togeather. If you want to be an airline pilot, be an airline pilot. Period. But be smart about it.
 
You should check out medevac/air ambulance. Can be a great gig at the right company and in the right locale.

You could go to AK and be a bush pilot and have a helluva time for that matter, really enjoy yourself and learn to fly in all sorts of various conditions. Plenty of happy AK pilots on here whose brains you can pick. It would be an incredible place to live too.

Also, don't let the whining of a few disgruntled people persuade you. Some people are just like that. Others find a way to make things work for them and have a better attitude. It's too soon to get discouraged in your career.


Agree 100% I'm doing the AK thing and love it. Great people, every day is a new adventure, 2 weeks off a month with CASS. I plan to earn significantly more than most Regional pilots while flying a Cessna 15 days a month this year.

I have friends that have made $60k in a summer flying a C206 for lodge type work.

With that said, I still consider Regionals and definitely would like to move into medevac at some point. There are pros and cons to every job, the key is finding the right avenue for you.
 
No matter what industry you are in, there will always be "those people." Trust me when I tell you, you have it pretty damn good.

God damned right. I work ten days on and off and have very good pay. Those ten days on, I stay at a camp where they cook all the meals, make lunches and snacks, clean your room, and wash your towels for you, Im driven to and from work via bus and flown in and out via 737. All I, and my co-workers have to do is show up to the terminal in Calgary, and yet, people still complain!

"tl;dr" People will always complain no matter how good they have it.
 
You will find pilots like to bitch about their jobs probably more than any profession. This is the easiest job I've ever had.
The when people complain they tend to inflate how awful it is in order to give their gripes credibility. I've noticed that when pilots complain on the internet it's even more inflated.

I work for what is largely considered a bottom feeder regional, and I love my job. Some of the stuff I read about my company on this and some of the other forums is so far off from my own experiences I seriously question the sincerity of the people posting it. Don't get me wrong, I have my bad days, and sometimes my bad months, but in the end it is still an easy job.

I generally like my schedule, almost always feel properly rested, slept in the crew room once (mostly because I was just too lazy to go to the pad).

The pay sucks, I'll give you that, OP. Furlough is kind of scary I guess, but I have enough seniority i am not too worried about it. And missing events is just something you work around. Christmas doesn't have to be on December 25th.

The job isn't for everyone, and it might not be for you. But it's also just as possible that it's not nearly as bad as it seems to you from the outside. I have a theory that the most vocal and negative complainers at the regional level just don't have the experience to know what a truly horrible job is. My guess is a lot of them went from college to CFI to regional. I've worked a number of different jobs in quite a few different fields and while it may be cliche, my worst day at my crappy regional is FAR better than my best day at almost any of my past jobs.
 
ATC is pretty damn awesome just from my limited involvement in it. However, it's a total crap shoot to get on with the FAA. Even if you do military ATC, you're guaranteed nothing, not even a shot at it. So I wouldn't recommend that be a main career "focus" per say. That being said, some of the ramp towers that do Ramp Control as well as operations(assigning common use) pay very well and can get you up to 6 figures with OT. Most fun I've ever had short of flying, plus nothing is ever your fault. :)

As far as flying jobs go, find another source of income and a job nearby and life will surely be much better. Even with all the legitimate complaints, I still think airline pilots have it better than most in the big picture of things with pay and domicile displacement being the only 2 big negatives that ultimately made me decide not to put all my eggs in one basket. However, if you have another steady income, the first few years of poor pay won't be so bad, and if crap hits the fan and you're facing a crazy commute you have no intentions to take, you can always just leave and find another flying job since you don't "depend" on the job, you just do it because you love it.

Easier said than done I know, but pilots are usually very sharp and determined people who work hard to achieve goals and adapt well to change. Chances are, you could figure something out. Just be sure to network outside aviation(or outside of flying anyway), empower people beneath you, and find out the passions, goals, dreams, and resources of your friends and see how you can put them togeather. If you want to be an airline pilot, be an airline pilot. Period. But be smart about it.

I completely agree. The entire career field is an absolute crap shoot. I feel like the OP may be selling himself a tad short on the myriad of non flying options. I can think of a few things ground based aviation wise as both a controller and airport manager that were more fun than anything I experienced flying GA though. Hey Genot, here is a rifle, grab the 6X6 and mitigate wildlife comes to mind.
 
All I could think about when I was younger was being an airline pilot. Having seen the frustration the airlines causes it pilots ( not to mention other factors) i'm starting to think about a plan B. Other than airline pilot and corporate pilot, what other aviation career options are out there?

If you are attemping to find joy and happiness in your job, you're likely to be disappointed. Find a job/career that holds your interest, and reserve joy and happiness for your off time.
 
Different Strokes for Different Folks, Don't let someones opinion influence a career decision.

If you want to be an airline pilot, then be an airline pilot, its not a prison sentence, if you don't like it move on and find something else in the industry.
 
Leaving the Navy, I had friends go in all sorts of directions. Aside from Airlines, other flying jobs have included CBP, Boeing Production Test & Delivery, Biz jet sales, DoD contracting, as well as medicine, law, FBI, engineering, etc... Everyone has gripes about their profession, some make it out to be worse than it probably is, and some people are just b!tc#es! My wife is a specialist physician, and she tried and tried to dissuade her brother from going into medical school. I get to hear every single day how 'awful' it's to be a doc. Myself, I probably delayed taking the plunge into a pilot career because I had listened to so much negativity.

Do yourself a favor - spend some time by yourself and listen to your own voice. I did, and I'm glad I quit listening to other people's BS.
 
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