Commuting out of OKC

FlyChicaga said:
We have a much, much better weight and balance program than American Eagle.
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Gracias! That's good to know. I had no experience with the ERJ side of AE, other than that the one time I successfully jumped on one, they left literally half the bags in Miami. Sounds like you guys have your stuff together.
 
zmiller4 said:
An alternate can definately screw you, though, as can a grumpy old captain who's on the last leg home who doesn't want to screw around with finding ballast.
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Even if the guy is grumpy, there shouldn't be any reason he'd have to wait for ballast if he thinks ahead. You KNOW you've got a JS well before you have the final cargo numbers. Ask station ops how much ballast they have. If they don't have a lot of ballast, ask if they have any magazines sitting around. Generally, with 50 pax and a JS, if you've got 1600lbs of cargo, you're good to go with us. Then again, it seems like our BOW is a LOT lower than a lot of guys.

As for alternate fuel, yeah. If we're full with an alternate, the odds are slim on the JSer making it. On shorter hops, it's mostly due to landing weight restrictions, and passengers might even need to come off if it's full.
 
GaTechKid said:
It also depends on the BOW aircraft index. Our CRJs go from a low of around 43 to a high of around 49 which is huge when trying to squeeze a guy up front. If the index is around 43 you can bet you need at least 1900-2000 lbs in the back.
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Wow. Our BOWs aren't that high. We're in the 30s range. Then again, they did just pull out half the drinks, so that must be the difference....
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I'm wondering if there isn't some miscommunication here--our actual basic operating weights are usually around 31,500 or so, while the empty index can range from 43 to 48ish....unless we just calculate balance totally differently. An empty index in the 30's would make it impossible to get one of our aircraft balanced.
 
You want to move to OKC? That is a first :D

I kid I kid. Good to see some ways of commuting isn't too difficult out of OKC!
 
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