Commercial Multi Initial

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cmhumphr

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Has anyone here completed their Commercial Multi Initial? If so, where did you do your flight training, how was the checkride and oral? I need some pointers on what to study other than the obvious.
 
Yeah I did mine that way. Initial Commercial Multi, and then came back and added on the Single. Im in a university training program at Utah Valley University. All in all, I actually thought it was a very easy checkride. Really know what you can/cannot do with a commercial pilot certificate (FAR Part 119), aircraft systems, and multi-engine aerodynamics. Everything else was basically like a Private Pilot checkride. You will have to do a cross country flight plan, like always just use good judgement, and know every symbol on a sectional chart. My DPE said he had done a few CMEL Initial checkrides recently where the applicants were having to look up even the most basic chart symbols. All in all, it was really easy. There were no surprises on the oral or flight. The flight itself was really straight forward. You will have no problems with it.
 
Sweet, thanks a lot guys! Now I just need a find a good Part 61 flight school to finish it at. I need about 25 more hours, but I haven't done any of the cross countries or maneuvers yet so it works out.
 
Yeah, I did the same. I still have never done a chandelle, lazy eight or eights on pylons. Once you get comfortable flying the twin it's an easier checkride in my opinion. The only part of the checklist you need to memorize cold is your engine failure procedure and your landing checks on downwind base and final (Most use GUM, GUMP and GUMPS) The poster above said everything you need to know other than the obvious maneuvers like spot landings, Vmc demo, short field takeoff etc. I got 3 engine failures on mine, one right on takeoff, one on cruise with a full shutdown and restart one under the hood on the ILS approach. For the Oral the FAA examiner pulled out the PTS and when right down the list. It was a long intense Oral but it was very fair and there were no surprises or trick questions. Be careful though, once you start flying the twin you may not want to go back to the basic single again. :)
 
And I am okay with never flying again. Well at least for awhile. I just need my commercial multi in the fastest and safest way possible. Amjon already recommended a flight school to me, so I'm going to check them out tomorrow.
 
How about FAR Regulations and weather? Did you guys get a lot of those questions during the oral? More specifically relating to weather, reading the charts.
 
Where are you located at and what state you looking at? I would offer my services but not many want to frequent Utah?
 
I am in Maryland, but I won't be back until the 1st of August. I need about 20 more hours and still need to take my FAA written. (Only because I'm still trying to figure out this whole test changes thing)
 
Nice, how do you like it there? Im just trying to finish up my CFII with UVU down in PVU right now, hopefully taking that checkride in the next week or two. With any luck I can get hired there, but who knows. How do you like Leading Edge?
 
my DPE went straight though the PTS for all the oral, and went as by the book with everything as you can ask for. Don't let the obvious things get past you!
 
p1l07m4n said:
Nice, how do you like it there? Im just trying to finish up my CFII with UVU down in PVU right now, hopefully taking that checkride in the next week or two. With any luck I can get hired there, but who knows. How do you like Leading Edge?
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I think you will be just fine. Make sure to have all that stuff down thoroughly. I love it, I am actually the Assistant Chief/Site Manager for the KSLC location. I am not hiring here at the moment, but if you need help I am willing to walk in a resume for our U42 location. Logan is another location they really need someone at if you are willing to live there. Great company to work for, and lots of networking opportunity. Very different from the collegiate atmosphere though.
 
My Commercial Multiengine Instrument was relatively easy here at Page Field in Ft. Myers, FL. 20 minute oral which consisted mainly of how a manufacturer determines Vmc, which is the acronymn STRAWFLOP, explaining the aerodynamics of an engine out (P-Factor, Accelerated Slipstream, Spiral Slipstream, and Torque), the do's and don'ts of your Commercial priviledges, and going through the VFR sectional with a fine tooth comb. Afterwards...the flight was 1.4 on the hobbs and consisted of 5 engine outs with one engine out with a feathered prop and another engine out on a ILS approach to Runway 5 in Page Field, Vmc Demo, power-on stalls, and steep turns.
 
Look through the PTS. If it is listed, know it. I have my students present it as a "mission brief" or business presentation. On my website I have a TOLD card that has a W&B section; a checklist for each WX item in the PTS (have them printed out and brief the examiner on each item); inspections; and performance. Last thing to brief is your route. This takes care of probably 50% of the oral.
Also, in addition know not just the systems on the airplane but general systems, such as how pressurization works, how fuel injection works, etc.
 
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