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My question in about 20 months is how does one get on with surf air?
No idea, I applied with about 100 over FO mins in April and not a peep, applied again with a hair under 135 mins a couple months ago and still never heard anything from them either. Not sure what competitive mins are for FOs on a Pilatus.
 
Weak sauce. ;)

Dash 8 200/300. Takeoff 1200, climb 1050, cruise at a leisurely 900.

Pratts in my experience (from the PT6s up to the Dash motors) seem maybe not louder but more bassy, which makes them seem louder (and more powerful).

Launch a 1900 and Metro back to back and it's a very noticeable difference.
Wow! Thats impressive. It certainly does have a different sound than the Garretts.
 
About the loudest plane at our airport is a Bonanza E33C. IO-520. Get that prop up to full power and it's louder than any of the jets except maybe the MD80s.
 
I propose that for every class D airport these people get shut down, we shut down one class B primary airport.
Nobody will miss a few of them; the fact that places like STL are B-primaries years after the demise of TWA (and PIA, for instance, are C-primaries) but CMA, OXR, NTD and a few other REALLY BUSY, and complicated D airports can't get overlying Class C speaks volumes.

Now, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it seemed pretty dead to me the last time I was at those places.
 
There are plenty of old closed Air Force Bases that have the facilities to be Class B type airports....just not enough traffic to justify it.
 
About the loudest plane at our airport is a Bonanza E33C. IO-520. Get that prop up to full power and it's louder than any of the jets except maybe the MD80s.
Same as what's in the 210(or maybe it was a 550), and that thing spun at 2350 IIRC! Still not as obnoxious as a Garret TP or a Premier taxiing straight at you though
 
"Pilots at the Sept. 30 meeting said that Surf Air pilots need training on best practices to descend more quietly in the Pilatus aircraft."
The article lost me here. Is this pilots patronizing the ignorant public?
...Sorry folks, from now on we will engage the worm drive on descent...(that's a "deep" reference)
 
Same as what's in the 210(or maybe it was a 550), and that thing spun at 2350 IIRC! Still not as obnoxious as a Garret TP or a Premier taxiing straight at you though

Different airframes, different dash motors, different props. Prop diameter and minimum angle/ maximum RPM influence the noise footprint. Some of those airframes on floats have different prop characteristics to help get on step faster. The land plane Cessna 180/185s sound awesome for that reason.

http://pponk.com/HTML PAGES/propcalc.html
 
The 210s with the 520s in them were extremely loud. The 550s less so, IMS.

I forgot my headset one day and figured I'd use the speaker. WHAT? I SAID I FORGOT MY HEADSET ONE DAY AND...
The IO520 is hands down the worst piston engine I've ever had the displeasure of meeting. Literally the ONLY good thing about it is that it is (subjectively) a smoother running motor than it's gray-painted counterpart. And that only applies until you blow a hole in a cylinder head (@Capt. Chaos). I would be pretty happy, actually, if the FAA grounded the whole 207/IO520 fleet on account of being a gigantic pain in the ass. The awesome part is some masochist in Anchorage developed a fancy pants tuned exhaust that makes disassembling the engine to change a jug an even bigger pain than previously and for some unfathomable reason they are ludicrously popular up there (clearly, not being purchased by the poor sumbitches who actually have to bust their knuckles getting to the fracking exhaust nuts)
 
They fly out of San Carlos, not Palo Alto. The funny thing is, a guy who works in their marketing department said the neighborhoods that complain the most about Surf Air are where a huge chunk of their customers live. SQL can be pretty busy as a training airport and got constant King Air and PC-12 charters before Surf Air. Hell, Oracle's CEO has a Citation based there.

Thanks for the lulz. Next time I'm met by an SQL airport ops truck in the middle of the night complaining that I got x amount of noise complaints and I'm "the only guy who keeps flying at these hours", I'll tell him to check out that link and thank me later.
 
Nobody will miss a few of them; the fact that places like STL are B-primaries years after the demise of TWA (and PIA, for instance, are C-primaries) but CMA, OXR, NTD and a few other REALLY BUSY, and complicated D airports can't get overlying Class C speaks volumes.

Now, I don't have the numbers in front of me, but it seemed pretty dead to me the last time I was at those places.
Let's not forget Van Nuys. It's the busiest GA airport in the world and ranks about 25th overall. I've heard during peak times it can break the top ten. And not one flight of commercial service. Some of the best tower controllers I've ever dealt with.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Nuys_Airport
 
The IO520 is hands down the worst piston engine I've ever had the displeasure of meeting. Literally the ONLY good thing about it is that it is (subjectively) a smoother running motor than it's gray-painted counterpart. And that only applies until you blow a hole in a cylinder head (@Capt. Chaos). I would be pretty happy, actually, if the FAA grounded the whole 207/IO520 fleet on account of being a gigantic pain in the ass. The awesome part is some masochist in Anchorage developed a fancy pants tuned exhaust that makes disassembling the engine to change a jug an even bigger pain than previously and for some unfathomable reason they are ludicrously popular up there (clearly, not being purchased by the poor sumbitches who actually have to bust their knuckles getting to the fracking exhaust nuts)
I remember Flight Express being OBSESSED with "stage cooling"(can't think of another word for it). An inch of MP and a quarter to half turn of the mixture(1/8-1/4 movement on the Baron) per thousand feet or 60 seconds.

Sure enough the one guy I know for sure that didnt do this popped a cylinder head.
 
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