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captainphil

captainphil

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Ok, this is the story.. This is my last year of high school and as soon as I graaduate I plan on going to SUNY farmingdale and then DCA Academy after four years of Farmingdale. I would like to hear what you guys t hink is the best alternative . I want my normal 4 year college to be local but my airline academy I don't care if it's local or not but i'm open to alot of suggestions. Thanks
 
DCA? Yowza. I can't say I'd recommend that considering the history of Jetcareers.

What are of the country do you want to train in?
 
Dude you are crazy. You need to go back on this forum and some other forums out there like APC and read how crappy peoples experiences have been at DCA and what a waste of money it was.
 
Can someone recomend me a really great airline academy to attend after college. ALso i'm not really great at math will that influenmce my acceptance into a school or chances on being a pilot?
 
College first, then flight training is a much better plan than no college at all.

That being said, college and flight training at the same time can be better. Four years in the same place doing the same thing (class, dining hall, dorm/frat parties, repeat) gets tedious.

Find a good FBO near your school and do both at the same time, keeping current during semisters and getting new licences between semisters.

Since Ive said the same thing many times now I stored copies of my typical "anti big flight academy rant" enjoy...

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Every single responce so far has been a recommendation for a big college or part 141 operation....Thats pathetic!! Is there noone here with the balls and originality to learn the REAL way, cheaper, faster, and noone holding your hand and spoon feeding the stuff to you. You dont need a big program with shiny magazine ads, you need to find a good local CFI and cheap a/c rental rates and goto town. If you really want to seperate yourself from the cuddled masses, buy a cheap ole IFR 150/152, find a crusty old CFI and fly the piss out of the thing in as little calendar time as possible. While these jet jockey wannabes are flying in circles, filling out mission sheets (and all that other part 141 bull) you'll be building time flying across the country, meeting people, staying in cheap hotels, taking advantage of FBOs and their courtesy cars, and taking random girls for "rides" in YOUR plane. Plus you'll save money and know how to REALLY fly, not "ive never been in a crosswind component greater than 10 kts, my school shuts down when it gets that windy"


This wasent that relevant now that i think about it but close enough.

 
I believe Dowling College offers an Aviation program at FRG. Maybe you oughta check into that. Do college and aviation at the same time.
 
"Can someone recomend me a really great airline academy to attend after college. ALso i'm not really great at math will that influenmce my acceptance into a school or chances on being a pilot?"

Oh Lord.

Math is no big deal. Why do you think that? You should slap the career counseler at your high school. Or better yet, invite him or her to this site.

If you must go to an "airline academy", I suppose ATP is the least expensive and gets the best results. Still not sure why you feel the need to go that route, though. I have several friends who are at various points in their airline career, none ever set foot in an "airline academy".
 
Andrew_VT said:
Every single responce so far has been a recommendation for a big college or part 141 operation....Thats pathetic!! Is there noone here with the balls and originality to learn the REAL way, cheaper, faster, and noone holding your hand and spoon feeding the stuff to you. You dont need a big program with shiny magazine ads, you need to find a good local CFI and cheap a/c rental rates and goto town. If you really want to seperate yourself from the cuddled masses, buy a cheap ole IFR 150/152, find a crusty old CFI and fly the piss out of the thing in as little calendar time as possible. While these jet jockey wannabes are flying in circles, filling out mission sheets (and all that other part 141 bull) you'll be building time flying across the country, meeting people, staying in cheap hotels, taking advantage of FBOs and their courtesy cars, and taking random girls for "rides" in YOUR plane.
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I agree with your general anti-huge-flight-school sentiment, but I think you need to realize that there's a TON of small FBO's that have 141 programs without any of the BS you're referring to here. Two out of the four flight schools at the airport I trained at were 141/ Of the two that weren't 141, one had a history of violations and accidents, and the other was ATP. The two that were were both small schools, with 10 or fewer aircraft each.
 
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I'd like to ask a quesiton. How do you train to fly for the airlines to fly the small regional turboprops/jets or even bigger(airbus)without going to an airline academy where you leanr all the abbreviations, airline procedures, flight simulation, jet time etc?how can you do that with just college training?This whole college thing is relativly new to me so go easy on me :).
 
captainphil said:
I'd like to ask a quesiton. How do you train to fly for the airlines to fly the small regional turboprops/jets or even bigger(airbus)without going to an airline academy where you leanr all the abbreviations, airline procedures, flight simulation, jet time etc?how can you do that with just college training?This whole college thing is relativly new to me so go easy on me :).
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Aaaak! Read this site more! :)

There's a number of ways to reach the airlines without going to an "airline academy". 135 operations hire a lot of flight instructors into larger twins and eventually turboprop positions. Also, a huge number of people getting hired by regionals right now are flight instructors who DON'T work at big academies and haven't flown anything bigger than a light twin.

You can learn to fly the airplane in training instead of paying a big-ass academy tens of thousands for the same thing.
 
captainphil said:
I'd like to ask a quesiton. How do you train to fly for the airlines to fly the small regional turboprops/jets or even bigger(airbus)without going to an airline academy where you leanr all the abbreviations, airline procedures, flight simulation, jet time etc?how can you do that with just college training?This whole college thing is relativly new to me so go easy on me :).
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Let me give you the "Dr. Doug" prescription.

Take all of your Flying Magazine's Flight Training magazines, AOPA magazines and put them in a box. Don't worry, you don't have to throw them away or anything.

Go to the main page at jetcareers.com and read absolutely everything starting from the first item on the menu all the way down to the bottom of the menu, paying special attention to the 'perspectives' articles.

During this time, don't even read the forum. Seriously!

And you're going to have zillions of questions (Chris_Ford, quiet, I'm talking here!) which is absolutely normal.

There are a variety of professional pilots that'd be more than happy to help answer your questions, but I think you'll get better and faster results by reviewing many of the articles on the main website and having us clear up any questions.
 
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I'd like to ask a quesiton. How do you train to fly for the airlines to fly the small regional turboprops/jets or even bigger(airbus)without going to an airline academy where you leanr all the abbreviations, airline procedures, flight simulation, jet time etc?how can you do that with just college training?This whole college thing is relativly new to me so go easy on me :).


You have 173 posts and yet you ask this question... wow maybe JetCareers really is shrinking my brain and narrowing my world views :sarcasm: ! Seriously though, keep doing what you're doing. Reading, and more importantly, reading from the right places is important. I think thats why alot of "academies" do so well with younger applicants. Getting the "whole story" is alot harder and time consuming than reading pretty font on professional looking websites and magazine ads.
 
Doug Taylor said:
And you're going to have zillions of questions (Chris_Ford, quiet, I'm talking here!) which is absolutely normal.
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Aroo?

Explain......

Also, phil, dude, can you let us know what part of the country you're in so we can be a little more geographically convenient when we suggest things?
 
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