College Degrees

John, I would appreciate it if you wouldn't patronize me like I'm some 12 year old kid. Believe it or not, I have been around the block a time or two. I'm not some guy who's wet behind the ears and doesn't have a clue as to how the real world works.

For example, I know that talking to people in a holier than thou, patronizing tone isn't a good way to get your message across.

And that's all I'm going to say on this topic. See, another thing I know is when I'm wasting my time -- oh, there's that time management thing that I supposedly don't have down!
 
Tony I feel the same way about your posts! I was just commenting to my wife about your "holier than thou" attitude!!!!


"What we have here is a failure to communicate."


I guess this shows the problem with written messages. I'm really not trying to be that way.

Ok I admit it: The last post was sarcastic because you gave me the "Talk to the Hand" (whatever!) comment but I am not "talking down to you."

I am trying to share real life experiences and offering people a chance to learn from my mistakes. Nobody has time to make them all themselves! Thank God I learned from others mistakes as well as my own.

Please don't dismiss Time Management as an obvious talent. I see CEOs every day who are horrible at it. One of my larger clients is an insurance company owned by one man. He tries to micro manage everything. He is running 25-8 (yeah more than 24-7)!!! He's wealthy and seems happy but I could never keep up with that schedule.

If I implied that owning your own business is the catch all panacea of life I am being misunderstood.

My suggestion to pilots is to emulate Mr. Taylor. Make sure you are multi-legged, that's all. Have a side business or two that could support you if you get furloughed or lose your medical, etc.

Some guys get another job but I have never seen that work out for very long. For example, I roomed with a Midway FO who worked at Lowe's while on reserve. He had two paychecks but no time. I don't think he was happy.

On the other side of the coin I know a lot of pilots at majors that have their own business on the side. They have a business working for them rather than vice versa.

One of the advantages of pro-pilot is you have a lot of down time, even if it is hard to schedule in advance. An internet business is probably a good idea for pilots, since all you need is a laptop in most cases.

Kudos to Doug for having a great sideline!
 
Nah, don't emulate me! I probably spend more time than a laywer in a law firm on this website and the revenue 'ain't all that'.
 
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I define poor as not being in control of your finances, your schedule, being in debt, wondering how you are going to pay the bills, living from paycheck to paycheck, etc.

There is nothing "happy" about being poor. Sounds stressful to me.

My definition of being rich is having the bills paid, no debt, no one coming to the door to take things away, being able to enjoy my life, wife and family, and having resources to do what we want when we want to do it.

That's what a rich life is.

So far no job ever gave me that.

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I agree with that idea and it's what I've been working for over the last few years. However, I think it's much more dependent on attitude, outlook, and consumption than what job you've got. In fact, some of my most care free days were spent waiting tables and working part-time in bike shops. My bills were all paid, I had no debt, and, though I wasn't making much ($15,000/yr tops), I had money left over for savings, health insurance, and fun. I was only working 25 to 30 hours a week and my life was based on skiing, biking, camping, and hiking.

I also had a lot of fun as a photographer, but it was a heck of a lot more work. I made more money, but didn't have anywhere near the free time. Granted, I was 'on the clock' while hanging out in Yellowstone, Sedona, Adirondaks, Pacific Coast, etc., but I had to constantly be in business mode. I spent a lot of weeks working 80 hours split between 40 shooting and 40 in the office. Running a nature oriented photography business was most certainly a lifestyle, not a career.

I know we've gotten into it on other threads, but at $15,000/yr, if you spend wisely and really evaluate what you spend your money on, you can live very, very well. By the definition above, 15Gs can make you the richest person around. My decision to become a pilot was based on what my wife and I learned from our poorer monetary days. If I make peanuts for the next XX years as a CFI, FO, or banner towing stud
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, we know we can be happy, healthy, and content.

Money is just paper and metal that we've placed a lot of faith and belief in. A few years ago I decided that I would learn to control money rather than letting it control me. Learning a bit about business, investing, and spending was the best thing I ever did. And it's the reason that I am able to pursue flight . . .

If I could go back to when I first struck out on my own, I'd tell myself to check out John's recommendation of "Rich Dad, Poor Dad." It had some good information even though I didn't like the business ethic it contained. I would also suggest reading "Your Money or Your Life" and a few basic investing books. Then I'd pay off and avoid debt, buy only the things I need or that will bring be immense satisfaction, and live with enough rather than excess. With my extra time and saved money, I'd find cheap enjoyment and spend weekends, evenings, and days off in the woods and mountains.
 
Mr. John Tenney is making assumptions about our own happiness based on the things that make him happy. I may not be the kind-a guy that likes to have alot company items tying me down. I may be the type of person who cant leave a job at home no matter how hard I try, and this stresses me out. Maybe having 16 days off a month with time to spend with my family is all I really want, and the extra burden of a "side job" wouldnt be worth the extra money. Or perhaps I like to have multiple jobs and projects always looking to make a buck. Different strokes for Different folks.

I will leave it very simple though, Get a Degree if you are still a young person.
 
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This is all according to each person's priorities...you can't really say that one thing is more important than another because the most important things in life are different for everyone.

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I will leave it very simple though, Get a Degree if you are still a young person.

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Just as you said previously...

Different strokes for different folks...

Is a degree always the best option?? Not necessarily.
 
whats that story abut the photographer and the fisherman taking a nap in his boat, and the photographer kept telling the fisherman to expand, etc...

I think its by Berthold Brecht... ??? anyone have a clue?
 
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