Colgan Air FA contract

USMC-SGT said:
something about calendar day off after standup overnight: If I read that right and you do a standup overnight then after your return flight back to base the following morning you would not have to return to work until the following day. That is great considering I have all standup overnights this month and do not have that protection. I will fly out at night, sit for 7 and then fly back in the morning and then fly out that night again to repeat. Then it list that I have 3 days off although on the first of those 3 days I actually fly in that morning from the previous nights standup. That part is not bad either.
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I'm betting it's more like what we have at PCL. You get released from duty after the first leg on the second day, but they can use you that night. Basically, it keeps you from doing a stand-up and a one-legger tacked on the end of it.
 
USMC-SGT said:
Few things I noticed.

60 minute show instead of 90: We have a 90 minute showtime now as pilots only to be able to turn the lights on for the FAs and then we as pilots (meaning FOs) only need 15 minutes to do all we need to do. Hopefully it goes back to 1 hour for all of us

Per diem: 10 cents more than the pilots
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90 minute showtimes, are you serious!?! Thats just crazy. Our FAs make 10 cents more an hour in per diem also.

Do colgan FAs have a no strike clause like PCL F/A? haha. what a joke that is, huh?
 
Like I said, bad idea. Someone that is still trying to memorize their cabin announcements doesn't have the slightest clue about whether a TA is a good deal or not. The NPA requires a minimum of 90 on the property in order to vote, and I don't think that is even enough. ALPA's system of one year is probably about right.
 
USMC-SGT said:
60 minute show instead of 90: We have a 90 minute showtime now as pilots only to be able to turn the lights on for the FAs and then we as pilots (meaning FOs) only need 15 minutes to do all we need to do. Hopefully it goes back to 1 hour for all of us
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Just a heads up a lot of the captains transitioning, myself included feel we will need a 90 minute show time not to rush ourselves with getting a new airplane ready to go for the first flights of the day.
 
Seggy said:
Just a heads up a lot of the captains transitioning, myself included feel we will need a 90 minute show time not to rush ourselves with getting a new airplane ready to go for the first flights of the day.
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I'm fine with that. Captains can go as early as they like and do anything their hearts desire. I'll be there 60 minutes prior to do my cockpit check, preflight, atis, clearance, load the flight plan, do the weight and balance and fix what the captain messed up in the fms. I've walked side by side with my captains and the standard routines I have seen take the same amount of time if not less than what the FO does.
 
But if you are flying with a Captain who is brand new on the airplane and they say, "Hey I would really appreciate it if we took an earlier van to get to the airplane early and allow myself enough time not to feel rushed as we accomplish the first flight checks until I get used to the airplane."

You wouldn't play along? As a brand new captain even on the 1900 I showed an hour and a half early to to get our ducks lined up for the day. I consider it a safety issue. Especially transitioning into the left seat of a new airplane. Plus it our policy, so you really can't object.
 
I completely agree, being new on the Q as well.

Think we got off topic a bit, this was about the Colgan F/A contract. I'd like to thank the great F/As that we have... it makes the day go so much smoother when you have a competent crew in the back!
 
wantfrieswiththat said:
I completely agree, being new on the Q as well.

Think we got off topic a bit, this was about the Colgan F/A contract. I'd like to thank the great F/As that we have... it makes the day go so much smoother when you have a competent crew in the back!
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Why, thank you! Nice to know we're appreciated! You know we think the world of you guys up front as well! I'm trying to figure out who you are, but can't, so I've sent a PM your way. :)
 
USMC-SGT said:
I'm fine with that. Captains can go as early as they like and do anything their hearts desire. I'll be there 60 minutes prior to do my cockpit check, preflight, atis, clearance, load the flight plan, do the weight and balance and fix what the captain messed up in the fms. I've walked side by side with my captains and the standard routines I have seen take the same amount of time if not less than what the FO does.
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This is one area i am particular about. I always try to be on time. some times i don't make it, but my FO's know for the most part that i like to get there early, finish my FFOD items early, and get underway early. I get really irked when I am sitting in an airplane, 20min before departure ready to go, and my FO is still getting his/her crap together. Getting clearance on taxi out, or when you call for the push is not the time to do it.

Nothing personal, but if you show a half hour later than me, and I've asked that you show at the same time... you'd best bring your A game, cause i wont be happy... and much like a wife, when I'm not happy, you're not happy.
 
Definately, I think we are talking about a few difference scenarios here. If our showtime is an hour and a half prior I will be there an hour and a half prior. If showtime is an hour prior I would be there an hour prior. If the captain wants to show earlier than scheduled to get things in order especially on an overnight I am 100% game, I have nothing better to do anyway besides sit at the hotel an extra ten minutes. It will be great seggy, just you wait. We will create aviation magic.
 
Show times. I'm kind of a "get there early guy". I like to ease into the day...get a cup of Joe, pull the paperwork, take my time. If the F/O feels he can do his job by coming to the airport right at show time, that's up to him.

The way I figure it, we're all adults and can get ourselves to work on time. Why do some of us feel that we've got to ride in the same hotel van? They run on schedules, you know.
 
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