Cockpit life and long transits?

The secret of Times Square is...there are hardly any NYers there! A fellow Crewmember found out I was from NYC. They told me how they loved Manhattan and Times Square. Except for changing trains/buses(used to be EWR based and had to get back to Queens), thats the last place I wanna go to.

The best is...'so do you go to New Years in Times Square.'
 
Derg said:
I'm not a slam-clicker but I'm not about to babysit anyone's low social skill husband. I'm happy in a group of compatible people but I'm also not going to drink Budweiser and eat at Chilis because anything beyond that is too challenging.
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This.

Had a trip a couple of years ago where not only were the suggested food choices limited, I had to call up to his room at van time 3 days out of 3.

This is the big boy/girl league. Not at the van? One gaff is permitted, but after that, It's on you, cause I'm getting breakfast.

Richman
 
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Max Power said:
I don't watch much TV, not a fan of most sports involving sticks and/or balls (certainly not enough to discuss the stats of Jim Awesomeback and how I think "Your team here will do next season"). I'm a big time car enthusiast and of machines in general, so I can talk about that to bore someone, but there's not many out there, not compared to sports guys..
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I wish there were more of you guys out there! This is my issue at times as well. I don't follow "traditional" sports either, so it can be a little tough when the guy next to you only wants to talk about football stats, the latest trades and his fantasy team. I basically just smile and nod. On the rare occasion that I fly with another motorsports fan, it's usually pretty easy to hold a conversation.

I can get along with just about anybody, at least long enough to get through a weeks worth of flying together, but sometimes there just isn't anything in common. On those rare occasions you'll discuss lunch/dinner options, the overnight and work. One big difference I've noticed between flying corporate and the airlines is just how many slam clickers exist at the airlines. It's totally fine if you don't want to go out, I get it, but when I flew 91 the crews went out almost every night for dinner together unless it was a min rest day. I definitely made way more friends because it. After a year at the airlines though I still barely know anybody's name.
 
Derg said:
I'm lucky. People generally hesitate to speak politics with me, which is perfect. My politics are for me and are personal.
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I've seen the sticker on your fridge...
 
Richman said:
This.

Had a trip a couple of years ago where not only were the suggested food choices limited, I had to call up to his room at van time 3 days out of 3.

This is the big boy/girl league. Not at the van? One gaff is permitted, but after that, It's on you, cause I'm getting breakfast.

Richman
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I had an FO that was continually late then I had to give him "The Chat" (tm) — something about the most important thing I expected early in the morning is being on time for the van. You don't need to be early, not even two seconds early, but the van leaves at (whatever) and if he's continually late, feel free to call into crew scheduling so he could go handle whatever was more important than being on time.
 
Derg said:
I had an FO that was continually late then I had to give him "The Chat" (tm) — something about the most important thing I expected early in the morning is being on time for the van. You don't need to be early, not even two seconds early, but the van leaves at (whatever) and if he's continually late, feel free to call into crew scheduling so he could go handle whatever was more important than being on time.
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It truly is a day for reflection when you look in the mirror, and realize you've become your father.

For me, I stopped dead in my tracks when I realized I was giving "The Chat" (tm). I nearly swallowed my tongue. My buddy, who was observing this particular episode, stood by and when I was done, came over and said "so, dude, does this mean you're not sleeping till noon anymore after staying up until 3am watching [Adult Swim]?"

Of course, you know full adulthood is upon you when you use the word "ointment" in a self-medicating sense, for the first time.

Richman
 
Derg said:
I had an FO that was continually late then I had to give him "The Chat" (tm) — something about the most important thing I expected early in the morning is being on time for the van. You don't need to be early, not even two seconds early, but the van leaves at (whatever) and if he's continually late, feel free to call into crew scheduling so he could go handle whatever was more important than being on time.
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I work with a guy who is always early when it comes to going to work. I like that. What I can't stand about him is whenever we go to lunch/dinner/bars he is habitually 10-20 minutes late. Sometimes as long as 45 minutes. I have been late several times, but I'll send a text and let you know well beforehand. I just don't understand why meeting for dinner is different from heading to the FBO...
 
Back in a previous life, I flew with a guy who would JUST be coming back from running at van time. His point of view was that his off time was his off time.

RIchman
 
Derg said:
I had an FO that was continually late then I had to give him "The Chat" (tm) — something about the most important thing I expected early in the morning is being on time for the van. You don't need to be early, not even two seconds early, but the van leaves at (whatever) and if he's continually late, feel free to call into crew scheduling so he could go handle whatever was more important than being on time.
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Uuhgh. Not something I'm looking forward to.
 
Derg said:
I had an FO that was continually late then I had to give him "The Chat" (tm) — something about the most important thing I expected early in the morning is being on time for the van. You don't need to be early, not even two seconds early, but the van leaves at (whatever) and if he's continually late, feel free to call into crew scheduling so he could go handle whatever was more important than being on time.
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Uuhgh. Not something I'm looking forward to.
 
Richman said:
It truly is a day for reflection when you look in the mirror, and realize you've become your father.

For me, I stopped dead in my tracks when I realized I was giving "The Chat" (tm). I nearly swallowed my tongue. My buddy, who was observing this particular episode, stood by and when I was done, came over and said "so, dude, does this mean you're not sleeping till noon anymore after staying up until 3am watching [Adult Swim]?"

Of course, you know full adulthood is upon you when you use the word "ointment" in a self-medicating sense, for the first time.

Richman
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I felt bad having to do that, but I think it was my first experience with the "reverse bully" experience.

You know, there are a couple personality types that will attempt to bully you until you "press the pause button" and establish your limits and after that point the two of you get along famously.

But I think his personality type was that he wanted to continually test the limits of behavior because I think he interpreted my quiet, observational "Hey you know your job, do it and let me know if I can help" type of leadership as a weakness of sorts. It was literally like leash training a dog after a while.

I absolutely loathe having to do that, but then, of course, it's part of the job.
 
Cptnchia said:
Uuhgh. Not something I'm looking forward to.
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Get ready!

So far for every fifteen "We need to steal your DNA and clone you" FO's, there is one "Please, take this constructively and use this for professional growth, BUT…" FO's.
 
Derg said:
I felt bad having to do that, but I think it was my first experience with the "reverse bully" experience.

You know, there are a couple personality types that will attempt to bully you until you "press the pause button" and establish your limits and after that point the two of you get along famously.

But I think his personality type was that he wanted to continually test the limits of behavior because I think he interpreted my quiet, observational "Hey you know your job, do it and let me know if I can help" type of leadership as a weakness of sorts. It was literally like leash training a dog after a while.

I absolutely loathe having to do that, but then, of course, it's part of the job.
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%100 agreement. I absolutely hate playing "the heavy". I hate it, hate it, hate it.

I was a IP/OE guy. Fantastic gig and %99 of the folks coming through the program were new hires, and they were an absolute joy to work with. Smart, polite, and motivated to succeed.

I wound up, one day, with one guy who...I swear, I thought I was getting punked by the other guys in the program. But no, this guy was serious. His technical knowledge was fine, and did the job, but every wrong thing you could say to a check pilot he proceeded to, and then doubled down.

After we got done, I actually took him into the little LCA office, and there was another check guy doing his revisions. I actually uttered the phrase "Let us have this room" (which I had only ever heard in a movie)....the other check guy's eyes got big as saucers and promptly split. Anyway, I dress the newbie down in an epic, head shrinking lecture that lasted about 45 minutes. So the guy seems to get the picture and I send him off.

But it bummed me out for the rest of the day because I had to go there. But sometimes, you just need to bring the rain.

Richman
 
Derg said:
I had an FO that was continually late then I had to give him "The Chat" (tm) — something about the most important thing I expected early in the morning is being on time for the van. You don't need to be early, not even two seconds early, but the van leaves at (whatever) and if he's continually late, feel free to call into crew scheduling so he could go handle whatever was more important than being on time.
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I always show at the time requested by the captain when I'm not the captain. In the 135/91 world we get a car so no one is going to leave without you but that didn't stop some of the captains at my last job from being complete dicks about it.

Guy starts lecturing me about showing up 5 minutes early because that is what they did in the Navy. I look at him, then my crew badge, then back at him. "That's really strange. It doesn't say US Navy on my crew badge."

I'm not a freaking mind reader I'll show up when you ask but I won't show early because I'm trying to second guess weather or not you want me to show early. If you want me there at 8:55 not 9:00 because we need to get on it a little early that would be great. Just ask.

Since I don't have duty times to worry about now I always show up really early and have everything done by the time the CP shows. It is just easy to be done early. The best example being the day when the hangar door wouldn't open because of a power failure but we still got everything done and were out on time because I was super early to work.
 
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