Citation Roll

As long as you know what you're doing, and about 99.999% of us don't, you can roll darned near anything.

The problem is that the 99.999% of us that don't truly know what we're doing, don't know they don't know. :)
 
Tram said:
You fly Lears?
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What? No. Used that as an example. I have 20 hours of 172 time, but I can't WAIT till I get to fly one of those NIFTY CRJ's!!!!! Those things are awesome! I'd work for free if I had to! I already have the backpack, iPod, and spiky hair.
 
Tram said:
LOL.. You're getting girthier with each post man..

I feel bad for you..
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Well, since I'm not skilled enough to do acro in non-acro airplanes, I gotta make up for it in other areas. And the fact that someone on a msg board doesn't like me is going to keep me awake for at least the next ten minutes.
 
Hacker15e said:
Dudes, the dick measuring contest is getting a little retarded here.
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Isn't it interesting how often there is much more revealed about the contestants than the participants intend?
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Maybe I'm the sane one (or insane) but isn't using a machine outside of the limits its engineers/designers intended at the risk of the user? I.E. tough ess if you push something beyond the POH limits...The sad thing is those who are along for the ride (pax) and didn't fully understand what the manipulator was doing seconds before their demise. Lets leave the test pilot stuff to the pros...
 
To restate,


Before this thread spirals out of control, no pun intended. There are a few questions that need to be answered in a general manner.

For the Lear or Citation performing an aileron roll or barrel roll:

1. Is it possible? Sure, its physically possible to do.

2. Is it safe, aircraft-wise? If you're able to keep it within the aircraft's G limitations, then it technically can be safely performed in a strict physical-discussion sense.

3. Is it legal, aircraft-wise? Depends. If there are any limitations to the aircraft itself, then it may not be.

4. Is it necessary or safe for any kind of operational need and/or purpose? With the aforementioned exception of Bob Hoover and his performance, likely not. In fact, Hoover was using a Saberliner, which is essentially an F-86 that can carry pax, more or less. But his case is a very rare exception.

So in descending order, these are the questions that once answered, show the difference between an pilot physically being able to perform a particular maneuver versus whether its reasonable and/or prudent to do so.

'Nuff said.
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