Citation Over-run in Brazil (video)

smack300 said:
Yea there is ha, that's why I was asking which one Baronman was referring too and the landing distance for it. Because from what I am looking at even a Citation X can land at 3,400ft fully loaded at sea level.
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Even an A-300 can operate in and out of 3,400 ft, an MD-11 better have a very long runway.............................
 
I'm shocked there is just one injury, it seemed to stop super abruptly. I can only imagine what it felt like inside the jet when it hit the ground like a trampoline and came crashing down.
 
It looks as if that final re-launching into the air took a large amount of forward momentum away from the airframe, causing the final impact and the trench to be just enough to bring her to a stop before plowing into the wall just before the street. Of course, in exchange for a reduction in forward momentum, it looks like the occupants paid with a very hard jolt to their spine.

I hope there are no spinal injuries that show-up later in life for anyone on-board. The vertical compression looked fierce.

Ouch, indeed.
 
smack300 said:
Whats the landing distance for a Citation?
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Totally depends on what model Citation, altitude, weight, etc. I used to fly the same model in the video (CJ3), and it can EASILY land on a 4700 ft runway in almost all conditions, assuming the runway is not contaminated. We didn't start giving it much thought unless the runway was less than 4,000 ft. I've personally landed a CJ3 on a runway with 2900' usable length (SPG). A friend of mine has landed a CJ3 in a 2600' strip (SQL).

Only time will tell what happened with this accident, but 4700' would be no sweat under most circumstances.
 
GypsyPilot said:
Totally depends on what model Citation, altitude, weight, etc. I used to fly the same model in the video (CJ3), and it can EASILY land on a 4700 ft runway in almost all conditions, assuming the runway is not contaminated. We didn't start giving it much thought unless the runway was less than 4,000 ft. I've personally landed a CJ3 on a runway with 2900' usable length (SPG). A friend of mine has landed a CJ3 in a 2600' strip (SQL).

Only time will tell what happened with this accident, but 4700' would be no sweat under most circumstances.
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Thanks for the reply. I figured it was fine just was curious. And I don't know how you knew it was a CJ3, all these citations look so similar.
 
GypsyPilot said:
Totally depends on what model Citation, altitude, weight, etc. I used to fly the same model in the video (CJ3), and it can EASILY land on a 4700 ft runway in almost all conditions, assuming the runway is not contaminated. We didn't start giving it much thought unless the runway was less than 4,000 ft. I've personally landed a CJ3 on a runway with 2900' usable length (SPG). A friend of mine has landed a CJ3 in a 2600' strip (SQL).

Only time will tell what happened with this accident, but 4700' would be no sweat under most circumstances.
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CRQ is the shortest we can go for Citation X per SOPs anyway ;)
 
smack300 said:
Thanks for the reply. I figured it was fine just was curious. And I don't know how you knew it was a CJ3, all these citations look so similar.
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CJ3 = 7 windows. Book # wise 4,700 feet should not have been a problem, even wet. If someone posts the specifics (ICAO ident. an Wx conditions) I can plug it into APG for CJ3 for the hell of it.
 
Isn't this fairly similar to what happened to that Air France A340 in Toronto some years ago?
 
my girlfriend use to fly with the co-pilot of this plane, 21 years old and was already flying 727s

Lucky guys, not far from there there is still the massive hole the TAM A320 made while bursting in flames after over running the wet runway....
 
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