Citation M2 and Phenom 100

[Polar742]

Do any of you manage either of these? I am looking for some operational info for the real world vs. the marketing wank. Top line question is 4 pax, 5000' DA airport with a 5000' runway for a 500 nm trip west with NBAA reserves.

TIA

 

[pwttogfk]

M2 will do this (done similar trips out of 46U). At the time my company bought the jet the Phenom 100 wouldn't. I've heard the 100EV is a lot better though. I manage/fly a M2. Good plane, but Textron needs to update it to compete with Embraer/Honda now that the 100EV and Hondajet Elite are on the scene.

 

[averettpilot]

Yeah 100 isn’t doing that in most (if not all) cases. Can’t speak to the M2 or EV, but I also hear the EV is much improved even though it’s only an additional 60ish lbs of thrust.

 

[Polar742]

Thank you both for your replies

 

[Deleted member 27505]

Do any of you manage either of these? I am looking for some operational info for the real world vs. the marketing wank. Top line question is 4 pax, 5000' DA airport with a 5000' runway for a 500 nm trip west with NBAA reserves.

TIA

Be particularly cautious going into high altitude airports with the 100 with anything more than a crew onboard... you might not be able to take off again.

 

[averettpilot]

Be particularly cautious going into high altitude airports with the 100 with anything more than a crew onboard... you might not be able to take off again.

Just don’t lose an engine and you’ll be fine