Citation 500 SIC question

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Learn2flyny

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Hello people:
This is the situation. Two years ago I woke up one morning and I wanted to see how a jet flies, so I found one of those schools they offer "CE 500 SIC type ratings" and got one on my license.
In any case, a few days ago somebody offered me to fly right seat on his Citation I. The questions are:
1. What kind of currency do I need? The certificate says the type rating is valid for 12 months. Obviously now I am almost 2 years. Is it just 3 landings and takeoffs just like any other multi-engine or a whole recurrent training?
2. The guy flies mostly part 91 and sometimes 135 and he is Single Pilot rated. Do I get to log any time or its up to his discretion if he wants me to fly it?
3. Assuming he has his MEI, can he provide training for currency(if needed) and sign my logbook?

I called the place I got the type and they made it sound like I need a recurrent training but I know guys flying right seat on citations for years without type ratings.
Any info will be appreciated. I just don't want to be sitting in the plane and not able to log anything. Not worth it.
 
In the US you don't even need the SIC type rating, especially if the Airplane and type of operations don't require an SIC.
As for acting as an SIC under 135, you'll need an SIC checkride (8410) to do so. If he has an ATP(maybe even if not) and is typed, he can give you the required 3 takeoff and landings in 90 days to act as SIC under 91. No need for an MEI. If you go international (and an SIC is actually required) you'd need the SIC or full type on the right seat.
I've never heard of an SIC type expiring. In fact, if you have the required training, you can walk down to the FSDO and show the 3 takeoffs and landings, plus the training outlined in 61.55 and they will give you an SIC right there. If you fly under 135 you will have to do an indoc, systems etc which will cover all the topics required in 61.55.
Perhaps what they meant is an 135.293/297 check is only valid for 12 months. The SIC type should be listed on your certificate.

As far as logging, well I've got bad news there. I'll refer you to the Nichols interpretation, which even addresses this with a Citation.
http://www.faa.gov/about/office_org...009/nichols - (2009) legal interpretation.pdf
 
The explanation of CE-500 SIC privileges and limitations always seems to take longer than the training required to obtain the SIC rating.
 
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