Cirrus under Canopy

auw2fly said:
If I remember correctly, they say it's the equivalent of a free-fall from 10 feet.
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That's about what I've been told, I've heard it hits the ground somewhere between 20-30 mph. Soft enough to survive, hard enough to make you not want to do it again.
 
auw2fly said:
If I remember correctly, they say it's the equivalent of a free-fall from 10 feet.
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Ys that sounds correct, but I thought they referenced it in two different ways, the one you mentioned, but also in a speciffic Feet Per Minute.
 
jwp_145 said:
Ys that sounds correct, but I thought they referenced it in two different ways, the one you mentioned, but also in a speciffic Feet Per Minute.
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I'd agree with both of you just by looking at that first ground picture. The tail is ripped off. It obviously didn't just settle gently into the trees.
 
Out of curiosity. I wonder who packs those chutes, a A&P, a parachute rigger? But I am guessing it is more of a unit with a X amount of service life, replaced after X period.
 
Hawks said:
Out of curiosity. I wonder who packs those chutes, a A&P, a parachute rigger? But I am guessing it is more of a unit with a X amount of service life, replaced after X period.
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I'd have to check our logbooks, but I think it needs to be repacked every 10 years. Ours is coming due next year and I hear it's quite pricey.
 
fholbert said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's the first time we've seen video of a real deployment, at least while it's still in the air?

Total package if we have video from the inside too.
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There was the midair in CO where a Cirrus came burning down under canopy after a midair. If the crash didn't kill them, the resulting fire surely did. Biggest fear of mine flying is burning up and this video is hard to watch.



Cirrus rocket packing...
 
fholbert said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that's the first time we've seen video of a real deployment, at least while it's still in the air?

Total package if we have video from the inside too.
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Someone caught this in 2010 when a Cirrus collided with a tow plane in Colorado. Unfortunately no happen ending in this one.




NTSB

The pilot of the Schweizer remarked that at 8,000 feet the tow rope was tight, they were climbing at 70 miles per hour, and that the air was smooth. At this approximate time and altitude, he observed a Cirrus airplane off the right side of his glider, less than 500 feet away. He was immediately concerned that the Cirrus was going to fly between the tow plane and the glider, and impact the tow line. He reached for the towline release, at which time the Cirrus impacted the forward right side of the tow plane at nearly a 90 degree angle.

The Schweizer flew through a ball of fire and was able to return to KBDU shortly thereafter. The pilot of the Schweizer and one passenger on board the glider stated that they did not observe either the Piper or the Cirrus maneuver prior to the collision. The pilot of the Schweizer stated that prior to the impact there were no control movements or turbulence induced by control movements of the tow plane. He commented that the flight was extremely smooth and that normally he can feel control movements or inputs from the tow plane. He elaborated that he felt that the tow pilot would have tried to correct or make an evasive maneuver had he seen the Cirrus airplane prior to the impact.
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mechan9 said:
Someone caught this in 2010 when a Cirrus collided with a tow plane in Colorado. Unfortunately no happen ending in this one.

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I never thought of that one as pilot deployed. Always assumed the impact deployed the chute,
 
I've got about 40 hours in a G2 Avidine equiped Cirrus, and I think the Cirrus is a GREAT airplane.

That said, the CAPS chute is of almost no value to me. In most of the crash scenarios that kill GA pilots (CFIT, low altitude stall spin, ect.) the forces are outside the CAPS envelope. The crash scenarios that I could imagine myself pulling the handle (midair, flight control malfunction, ect.) are extremely rare.

In the event of an total engine failure I would still elect to glide it down to a landing if I could find any reasonable landing site. By pulling the chute, you as a pilot have zero control over where your plane lands, and pulling at any high altitude, you risk "landing" in some even worse terrain. Only if I was gliding down and had absolutely no viable field in site, then would I pull the handle.
 
USMCmech said:
I've got about 40 hours in a G2 Avidine equiped Cirrus, and I think the Cirrus is a GREAT airplane.

That said, the CAPS chute is of almost no value to me. In most of the crash scenarios that kill GA pilots (CFIT, low altitude stall spin, ect.) the forces are outside the CAPS envelope. The crash scenarios that I could imagine myself pulling the handle (midair, flight control malfunction, ect.) are extremely rare.

In the event of an total engine failure I would still elect to glide it down to a landing if I could find any reasonable landing site. By pulling the chute, you as a pilot have zero control over where your plane lands, and pulling at any high altitude, you risk "landing" in some even worse terrain. Only if I was gliding down and had absolutely no viable field in site, then would I pull the handle.
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Yea, no field, or if your IMC, or if your flying at night, or if your flying over the mountains, or midair, or control malfuntion... Yea other than that, I dont need a chute!
 
FYI A further local article…with a bit of understandable confusion from a ground observer about how things work:

"The Cirrus SR22 that crashed at Lawson is understood to be a demonstration model used to sell the $480,000 planes by an aircraft sales and maintenance company based at Bankstown Airport.

It is not known whether the Sydney company was demonstrating the plane to business prospects.

The plane that landed safely is registered to the parent company Cirrus Design Company in Duluth, St Louis, in the US, according to the Federal Aviation Authority’s register in the US."

http://m.smh.com.au/nsw/plane-parachute-gives-near-disaster-a-soft-landing-20140510-zr8uc.html
 
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