CHT Gauge Required?

[trafficinsight]

I can't believe any mechanic would tell you carb heat isn't required... where do they find these guys?

 

[Roger, Roger]

blah blah blah blah

You're dangerous. And foolish. And your ego is writing checks your body can't cash. And that makes you dangerous. (my original post was just an attempt to harass you, if anything you're more paranoid when flying than I am)

I can't believe any mechanic would tell you carb heat isn't required... where do they find these guys?

Alaska? Just kidding...


As poorly as 91.213 is understood by pilots, it seems in general to be even more misunderstood among mechanics.

 

[Autothrust Blue]

You're dangerous. And foolish. And your ego is writing checks your body can't cash. And that makes you dangerous. (my original post was just an attempt to harass you, if anything you're more paranoid when flying than I am)

As poorly as 91.213 is understood by pilots, it seems in general to be even more misunderstood among mechanics.

Speaking of misunderstandings: don't attempt to use the 91.213(d) relief for inoperative instruments and equipment if you've got an MEL. Just saying.

"Except for operations conducted in accordance with paragraphs (a) or (c) of this section..." tends to EXCLUDE those operations under paragraphs (a) or (c) from the relief in paragraph (d), amirite?

 

[Fly_Unity]

I do not teach TOMATOFLAMES nor ever have. I think its stupid.

Common Stage Check question:

Me: Why is a Tachometer required?
Student: Because its in Tomatoflames..
Me: Is the nosewheel required?
Student: .... Ummm I dont know...????

91.213 is the first place you should go

But thats me.

 

[msmspilot]

I do not teach TOMATOFLAMES nor ever have. I think its stupid.

Common Stage Check question:

Me: Why is a Tachometer required?
Student: Because its in Tomatoflames..
Me: Is the nosewheel required?
Student: .... Ummm I dont know...????

91.213 is the first place you should go

But thats me.

Exactly!! Besides, if you have something broken on the airplane, you're either in flight, in which case you can figure out if you need to land immediately or not, then figure it out on the ground, or you're on the ground, and have opportunity to figure it out. No memorization required except 91.213.

 

[TOGA9]

On a similar topic, I had a discussion with our chief instructor today about this and we've heard conflicting stories from different feds. In the comprehensive equipment list stuff is either labeled R for required, S for standard, O for optional, and A for additional. I was told that standard(S) items are also required, but required by the manufacturer not the regs and required(R) equipment is stuff the regs say is mandatory. He was told that S items aren't required which, to me, isn't illogical--I don't see why the lack of a cargo net or 1 static wick would render an aircraft unairworthy. Anyone have any knowledge to shed on the subject?

I would be interested to know as well. I looked at some of the airplanes on our school's ramp today. The C152 we have has an equipment list with R, S, A, and O. Our Piper Arrows have standard and optional equipment. How would one go about using the equipment list to see if the item is required per CAR 3 or FAR 23. Like the example above, static wick missing?