Cherokee 140 PA 28

[Pilot0486]

Depends on how old the airplane is.... The old one I was in didn't have toe brakes on the right side.

The biggest difference you'll notice is the landing. PA-28s tend to sink and you need to carry a little extra speed than a Cessna. It all depends on what airplane you fly, each airplane has it's own unique characteristics (regardless of manufacturer and type). They are after all human built.

 

[KSCessnaDriver]

No doubt, but it's a real trip to fly a Warrior II and then jump into an old 180HP Arrow with the heresy bar wing! I've done that one a time or two and WOW! I didn't put it on the numbers, I tried to put it IN the numbers!

Ah yes, the joys of the power-off 180 in a 180HP hershey bar Arrow. It was time to turn base yesterday, in that plane.

 

[CoffeeIcePapers]

No toe brakes but you still had the handbrake.

Right, but it is pretty useless when the student locks up on left brake and tries to put you in the grass.

 

[subpilot]

You could use the "What if..." argument for just about any aspect of training for any aircraft. I was hesitant with the hand brake at first too but quickly got used to it and never has any issues with it.

 

[sixoneseven]

I've never flown a PA-28 that didn't have toe brakes. I remember some didn't have them on the right side but they all had them on the left.

My 1967 Cherokee has no toe brakes at all. Just the handbrake in the middle.

 

[Inverted25]

My 1971 just has toe brakes on left side. What is this hand brake you guys are talking about. I have a parking brake below the throttle casing but thats it. Manual flaps are between the seats. Its a easy plany to fly. Plan 110knts cruise at 7.5 gph. Hersey wing drops like a rock when power is idled. Some people dont like it but I find that it comes in handy. Biggest difference between a cherokee and a 172 is you dont have to flare so much. In the 172 I would almost get to backstop when flaring and it would sit right down. If you do that in a cherokee it will float the whole runway. I always just come in at 70 knots till final than on short final go to 60 knots and hold that pitch right to the ground using the throttle to reduce vertical speed. You will grease it everytime that way.

 

[Radu38J]

I own one, w/ the Hersey bar and manual flaps, above the head trim and all and have about 200h in it. It burns about 0.5-1 gal more than a 172 with the same engine O320, but cruises about 5-8 kts slower. I keep the rpms at 23-2400 in cruise, above that it burns 9+ gals at 3000 ft. You can land it at 60kts if there is no wind, and you get the stall warning in the flare, but lands very smoothly. If there is wind, keep 65 and about 12-1300 rpm and you have no prob. Best glide gives you about 700-800 fpm descent. Stalls are more abrupt than in a 172 and it drops the wing much faster. No CFI I know does spins in a PA28 due to it being more difficult to recover. There are all kinds of mods piper owners usually install on the plane, yours may have those too, check them out at pipermods.com or something like that. Finally, remember to change tanks every now an then