cheating in the new FAA biographical questionnaire exposed
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GolfChuck
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Doesn't surprise me one bit, but I work here. I'm quite sure I would never have been hired under this system or the system that immediately preceded it.
Stone Cold
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That is available for everybody, though. It sounds like this cheating was for select individuals, and/or organizations. It makes it a little different.
deadstick
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I was thinking about the normal FAA-ness of a bunch of well-qualified applicants, with degrees and experience in the field, all of a sudden being lumped together with an associates degree in underwater basket weaving.
With that said, had the ATC knowledge test been part of it, @Derg would be right, but I think it was the new fuzzy-psych test that was leaked and, as @Stone Cold pointed out, it only went out to a select group. If this is correct, I think it's comparable to somebody at a major posting the personality/psychological exam used to filter out pilot candidates and marking the answers HR had determined fit a most desirable candidate.
With that said, had the ATC knowledge test been part of it, @Derg would be right, but I think it was the new fuzzy-psych test that was leaked and, as @Stone Cold pointed out, it only went out to a select group. If this is correct, I think it's comparable to somebody at a major posting the personality/psychological exam used to filter out pilot candidates and marking the answers HR had determined fit a most desirable candidate.
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deadstick
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There are "right" answers to honest to goodness psych screens, but this is BS.
poser765
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I am routinely shocked by what the FAA considers good practices for hiring controllers. I honestly feel bad for people who want to do this for a living...Getting hired seems about as skillful as winning the lottery.
I mean really? a personality test as the primary means for determining eligibility? I aint even mad that people leaked the questions and cheated. That just seems like it would be the natural thing to have happen.
I mean really? a personality test as the primary means for determining eligibility? I aint even mad that people leaked the questions and cheated. That just seems like it would be the natural thing to have happen.
ChasenSFO
hen teaser
Totally seems that way from what I've read about people going thru OKC recently. People getting all the way to OKC just to say "Wait, I have to move for this? I'll go back to programming mobile apps, see yah!". Then those spots get filled with more of the fortunate few who pass the BQ but otherwise may have no quals for the job. Rinse, cycle, repeat...
But the question is, why would they NOT want people who will love/care about the job and not have the paycheck be their sole motivation for clocking in? So strange, then again, what isn't about this process? Any chat with the FAA guys here about trying to get in usually starts with a very sympathetic tone like I'm a 5 year old kid who just said he wants to be an astronaut. I'm just rooting for the ONE guy I know who made it thru the BQ. Good luck @Bigey!
queeno
Ward of the Guberment
Trying to use reason to figure out the FFA, all i can say is " fore head meet wall, wall meet fore head" hay at least its out in the open now and those involved cant hide what they did. I have a lot of words to say but most would just be filtered out.
Blackhawk
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So.. they recognized a shortage of certain demographics within the FAA and controllers. Instead of trying to find a way to attract qualified applicants within this demographic, or finding ways to get those within the desired demographic the training to compete for these jobs, the qualifications were drastically changed.