Charts!! (suck!)

I'd say get ur self an I-pad, and fore flight, just make sure to get a 3G one since it comes with a gps receiver. I got my self one and I feel it's the best purchase I ever made.
 
2 things...

1.) Sky Vector is your friend. Just print out the area around your airport and the other charts in your bag when you need them.

2.) Once you go Jepp.... you'll never regret!
 
Crossed the country in a Seminole with an iPad and Foreflight. Not only it is amazing, but you can even stream music via bluetooth to your headset. The only little thing is that the flight log doesn't update, and to go direct to a waypoint you still have to choose waypoint, it is by default set to airport/vor. No biggie and it will surely be corrected soon. An amazing tool this.
 
It sounds to me like you are just trying to justify buying this ipad. You going to have your wife look at this thread as proof on why you need it? :)
 
If someone says "tax write off" I may just feel justified!

Has anyone used Foreflight on the iPhone while in flight? I'm guessing that you have to go to airplane mode to meet FCC regs... Which means gps and all data is off. Doesn't seem that useful then.
 
For those not using ForeFlight, if you want to download the entire set of plates for a particular state or region (instead of one approach at a time, as on the FAA site), this site has them:

PDFPlates.com
 
Grabo172 said:
If someone says "tax write off" I may just feel justified!

Has anyone used Foreflight on the iPhone while in flight? I'm guessing that you have to go to airplane mode to meet FCC regs... Which means gps and all data is off. Doesn't seem that useful then.
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Are you a contractor or employee? If you are a contractor, it is fully deductible.
 
I am also interested in the ipad/foreflight combo.

I am planning a 50 hour xc (coast to coast and back to Chicago) trip in a Seminole for the summer, and the biggest thing that I am concerned with is what to do about charts.
 
Grabo172 said:
If someone says "tax write off" I may just feel justified!

Has anyone used Foreflight on the iPhone while in flight? I'm guessing that you have to go to airplane mode to meet FCC regs... Which means gps and all data is off. Doesn't seem that useful then.
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There isn't such a reg sir. Using FF on an iPhone would not be preferable. A backup option but not much more.
 
Grabo172 said:
If someone says "tax write off" I may just feel justified!

Has anyone used Foreflight on the iPhone while in flight? I'm guessing that you have to go to airplane mode to meet FCC regs... Which means gps and all data is off. Doesn't seem that useful then.
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Do you ? Well, part 91 I don't think it really matters... I use it with the GPS on of course.
 
7700 said:
current charts are your students' responsibility!
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mshunter said:
This. Why are you worried about it? If your student want to be a pilot, they need to be willing to buy charts. Buy yourself a set of sectionals/Low en routes(let 'em expire, who cares), and print the approach plates right off the FAA's website.
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dasleben said:
Yep!
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tiredcfi said:
:yeahthat:
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I disagree with this idea.
I personally wouldn't like the image that chart mooching/sharing would project to my student. If it doesn't ding your pride as a professional flight instructor, go for it, no skin off my nose but this would make me cringe.

When I was a private/instrument student, I had the benefit witnessing my flight instructor going above and beyond in that professional sense; that it wasn't until later that I found out that he made so little. I strived for that.

Grabo172 said:
2) In regards to the students having the current charts: I think if I require them to do so, I shouldn't be tooling around with expired ones.
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I agree.
 
I will add my 2 cents for the iPad as well. I have been using it for almost a year and cannot say enough about the utility of foreflight on the iPad. While goodreader, etc... are cheaper solutions, keep in mind that not only does foreflight offer charts. They also offer radar/satellite overlays on your route, fuel prices, etc... All of the information is very well organized and presented in a very intuitive user friendly format. Plus, battery life on the ipad is around 8hrs with heavy use.

I would also say that in addition to using foreflight on the iPad, I will print up approach plates as a backup for the iPad. While the upfront cost is higher than a years worth of charts, it pays for itself in more than just the cost of the charts but also in ease of use. I would recommend the iPad to anyone.
 
The regular Kindle screen is really not big enough to view a full approach plate - Kindle DX should be much better. I had a bad experience with charts on an iPad - it suddenly, without warning turned itself off due to overheating. The cockpit wasn't particularly warm but it turns out the bright screen acts thermally as if it were matte black, and direct sunlight was heating it up badly. I'm not saying you shouldn't use an iPad as sole source of chart data, but do be aware of it.
 
Having current charts of some sort is the cost of being a CFI (paper, electronic, whatever form). In addition, in most legal cases the NTSB courts will find that you as the CFI are the PIC and legally responsible for the safe outcome of the flight. Expired charts alone will probably not get you violated (I think there was even an FAA legal interpretation on this). If there is an issue on the flight due to expired charts, however, you as the PIC will be held accountable. Think charts are expensive? Try getting legal representation in an NTSB court case. Think the job market is tough? Try getting a flying job with a violation in your records. Not impossible, just another hurdle.
 
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