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Luiz Mourão

Luiz Mourão

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Hi, my name is Luiz I am from Brazil, and I live in Oregon right now... I am finnishing my private and I am looking for new options to do my IFR and Commercial. I already search for many schools, but I would like some opinions about good schools, located in places of good weather and with a good quantity of planes available. I am in contact with Sunrise Aviation in Ormond Beach, I would like to know also if someone knows something about this is schol.

Thank You!
 
I would recommend taking a look at FlightSafety Academy in Vero Beach. It's about 2 south along the coast from Ormond Beach. I arrived with my private and I'm finishing up my CFI now. Being part of FSI, I think I can say the school is run in a way that reflects a similar level of professionalism. Somewhere around 92 aircraft (about 70 piper warriors and 22 seminoles). One of the reasons I chose FSA was the incredible maintenance department, the aircraft are meticulously taken care of. Check it out.
 
Luiz Mourão said:
Hi, my name is Luiz I am from Brazil, and I live in Oregon right now... I am finnishing my private and I am looking for new options to do my IFR and Commercial. I already search for many schools, but I would like some opinions about good schools, located in places of good weather and with a good quantity of planes available. I am in contact with Sunrise Aviation in Ormond Beach, I would like to know also if someone knows something about this is schol.

Thank You!
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There are quite a few flight schools from portland down through the willamette valley. Good weather is overrated anyways. You'd get actual ifr if you stay around here.
 
z987k said:
There are quite a few flight schools from portland down through the willamette valley. Good weather is overrated anyways. You'd get actual ifr if you stay around here.
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Yes, I know man,but the thing is, I already lost to much time waiting for a school wich doesn't show interess in all students. I am here for 9 monthsm I didn't fail in any progress check, and I didn't get my private yet...Is this normal? So now I need to recover my time...but thank you anyway!
 
Luiz Mourão said:
Yes, I know man,but the thing is, I already lost to much time waiting for a school wich doesn't show interess in all students. I am here for 9 monthsm I didn't fail in any progress check, and I didn't get my private yet...Is this normal? So now I need to recover my time...but thank you anyway!
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What school are you currently at Luiz?
 
Luiz Mourão said:
Yes, I know man,but the thing is, I already lost to much time waiting for a school wich doesn't show interess in all students. I am here for 9 monthsm I didn't fail in any progress check, and I didn't get my private yet...Is this normal? So now I need to recover my time...but thank you anyway!
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Mehhh...I took about 8 months. And that was in So cal. Right about the time I was ready to take my checkride i had to reschedule it three times due to weather. It's a lot of responsibility to go from a 0 hr. student to someone who's allowed to load up his entire family and fly cross-country. Just think of it that way. How long do you think it should take for such a privilege? I understand your frustration though. I was my CFI's first student and I felt like he was super reluctant to solo me, sign me off, etc. just cuz I was his first. I think at this point in my flying career I'd just say go find some normal part 61 place (preferably in a place with good weather) and finish up. Steer clear of the "accelerated"/part 141 international yadda yadda schools. I feel like you, being a foreigner, can kind of become a target for those kind of places whereas if you just went to some part 61 place 4 days a week, you'd probably finish at exactly the same time.
 
Pachong said:
p.s. does the chick in your profile picture have a sister?
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Haaha!

On topic

I would suggest staying in Oregon and get some real experience flying in weather. It is nice to get IFR experience and not have to worry about thunderstorms and being tossed around. Another thing I would suggest if you feel like things are moving along slowly is to constantly study and reach out to other instructors to show your progress. Remember you are their customer you should find an instructor that fits you.
 
Cessnaflyer said:
Haaha!

On topic

I would suggest staying in Oregon and get some real experience flying in weather. It is nice to get IFR experience and not have to worry about thunderstorms and being tossed around. Another thing I would suggest if you feel like things are moving along slowly is to constantly study and reach out to other instructors to show your progress. Remember you are their customer you should find an instructor that fits you.
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Pachong said:
Mehhh...I took about 8 months. And that was in So cal. Right about the time I was ready to take my checkride i had to reschedule it three times due to weather. It's a lot of responsibility to go from a 0 hr. student to someone who's allowed to load up his entire family and fly cross-country. Just think of it that way. How long do you think it should take for such a privilege? I understand your frustration though. I was my CFI's first student and I felt like he was super reluctant to solo me, sign me off, etc. just cuz I was his first. I think at this point in my flying career I'd just say go find some normal part 61 place (preferably in a place with good weather) and finish up. Steer clear of the "accelerated"/part 141 international yadda yadda schools. I feel like you, being a foreigner, can kind of become a target for those kind of places whereas if you just went to some part 61 place 4 days a week, you'd probably finish at exactly the same time.
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I would strongly suggest taking a look at the new facility and school in San Marcos, Texas. It is called Redbird Skyport. The built brand new facility, classrooms, fly new planes and use high tech full motion simulators with their instruction.
 
How much they charge for full motion sims? I'm just thinking in Texas you could probably find a 152 to rent for less than 60 an hr.
 
Actually, I'm impressed with the Redbird Skyport concept and I believe it will be the way of the future. It's the only way that I know of that will reduce training costs on the general aviation side while using state of the art (late model) aircraft and flight training devices. I would love to hear from some of the students that have been through this program.

In looking at their website, I see that they have a guaranteed price on private and instrument ratings. That's a good thing. As they get more experience with this concept, the price will probably come down some. Although this school is new and quite innovative, it was put together with the help of John and Martha King along with the Redbird simulation folks.

In the past, folks have disregarded flight training devices for general aviation because you can't log the FTD time on your private rating. In the end it really does not matter if you can not log the FTD time. What matters is that you get your rating and that you are trained properly as a pilot. The FTD insures that you are trained properly on the ground. That means you don't have to fly the same pattern or whatever over and over again in the aircraft just to try to get it right.

You will still log your actual flight time in the plane, just not the 70 hours that it takes most folks to get their private. You will now probably log closer to the FAA minimums for the ratings.

Joe
 
+1 for Redbird Skyport, if you're looking for new equipment and innovative ideas. If you're looking toward Florida, check out Aviator College in Fort Pierce, best bang for the buck especially for Multi-engine and if you do the right program you'll get instructor experience after you get your CFI, II and MEI
 
Pachong said:
How much they charge for full motion sims? I'm just thinking in Texas you could probably find a 152 to rent for less than 60 an hr.
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Not sure you'll find a 150/152 for $60 hr. here in Texas, with fuel closing in on $5 gallon ($5.42 at my airport) ....... at least one you'd want to fly in!

An airplane cockpit is a lousy classroom, a C150/152 is one of the worst, I learned in one and have taught in one and its a great trainer, but still a lousy classroom. I charge $90 hr with the instructor for my redbird but the efficiency of teaching in an AATD far out weighs the few dollars you might save per hour in a C150/152.
 
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