CFIs: Oral questions, and good bookmarks in FAR/AIM?

surreal1221

surreal1221

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Alrighty gents/ladies (?)

The time for my checkride is approaching. . . of course, not tomorrow, not before Christmas, and not before the Super Bowl. . . BUT. . . I have a couple questions. . . part nostalgia and part informative. But first,

I have a couple of these really cool post it note bookmark tabs, and page markers. What sections in the FAR/AIM should I bookmark or page mark - for PPL ASEL, CPL MEL / SEL, IFR ticket, CFI (141), etc? Just pretty much, which pages do I need to have quick reference to over the next couple of years?

And also. . . now for the nostalgia. . .What was the toughest oral question during any of your checkrides?

Til next time.
 
surreal1221 said:
What sections in the FAR/AIM should I bookmark or page mark - for PPL ASEL, CPL MEL / SEL, IFR ticket, CFI (141), etc? Just pretty much, which pages do I need to have quick reference to over the next couple of years?
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The index page at the start of Part 61, 91, and 119. From there, you can look up anything you need to reference.

surreal1221 said:
And also. . . now for the nostalgia. . .What was the toughest oral question during any of your checkrides?
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The one I didn't know the answer to ;)

Haha...no, seriously, I can't remember. I felt pretty good about the whole oral. Nothing too traumatic happened.
 
As a flight instructor, I tabbed all the Part 61 reqs for each rating so I can reference what my students need.

For years I've been tabbing part 91 stuff as things come up, but now nearly the whole thing is tabbed so I'm not sure how effective it is.

Things I routinely forget, for example, the FAR that tells you when certificates expire, and the FAR that tells you you can fly at night below VFR mins at a class G airport as long as you stay with in 1/2 mile... that stuff I tab so I can quickly show it to students.

Hardest question? Have to think on that and get back to you.
 
Go through the PTS. Each PTS TASK that references a FAR, find that specific FAR number, write it down in the margin of the PTS and tab it in your FAR book.
 
Part 23 is an uncommon one, but I have a friend who recently got drilled on Part 23 on his CFI initial. It has to do with certification of aircraft and why certain parts of a plane although not listed in 91.205 have to be in working order for the plane to be airworthy.

Example from his checkride: If an aircraft is equipped with a fuel pump, does it have to be working for the plane to be airworthy? Sounds like a dumb question doesn't it? Well, most people would say yes, but have no idea why other than it would be stupid not to have it, and 91.205 says nothing about having to have an operative fuel pump for VFR flight. That is where Part 23 comes in.

You won't find it in the common ASA FAR/AIM though if that's what you're using.
 
In the example of the inoperative fuel pump, it may not be necessary to go to FAR 23. . .

91.7 Says that no person can operate an aircraft unless it is airworthy and that when an unairworthy condition occurs the flight should be terminated.

91.213 says no person may take off an aircraft with inoperative instruments or equipment installed (unless a bunch of conditions are met).

If the fuel pump is on the equipment list as "Required" and the fuel pump is inoperative, then the aircraft is not airworthy.
 
PanJet said:
Part 23 is an uncommon one, but I have a friend who recently got drilled on Part 23 on his CFI initial. It has to do with certification of aircraft and why certain parts of a plane although not listed in 91.205 have to be in working order for the plane to be airworthy.

Example from his checkride: If an aircraft is equipped with a fuel pump, does it have to be working for the plane to be airworthy? Sounds like a dumb question doesn't it? Well, most people would say yes, but have no idea why other than it would be stupid not to have it, and 91.205 says nothing about having to have an operative fuel pump for VFR flight. That is where Part 23 comes in.

You won't find it in the common ASA FAR/AIM though if that's what you're using.
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This is one of my biggest pet peeves!!! There is this attitude that people (not you panjet) that if its not in 91.205 you're good to go.

WRONG!

91.205 is relied on way to heavily!!! Its not the place to start when looking into inop equipment.

91.213 deals with inop equip and how to take care of what and how.
 
Kinda..... 91-213 deals with the MEL issues under a-c. But under subsection d it throws you back to 91-205. Which is to take the plane to your AP and have them inop and placard the equip if not needed. The fuel pump would be a no go under Part 23 (makes sense) and it seems that this situation has been coming up quite a bit in checkrides. To MEL or not MEL, that is the question????
 
No, not "kinda".

You are missing the point. Dont jump into 91.205 anytime you have a inop piece of equip. 91.213 doesnt just point you back to 91.205. It discusses the type of ops certificate and other important docs that are required to determine if the equip is needed.

91.213 is a reference and defines a process on how to deal with inop equip. 91.205 doesnt even come close to dealing with everything that must be checked prior to flight.

Secondly, nowhere does it say to take your airplane to your AP for a disconnect and placard.
 
(d)! (d)! 91.213(d)
Never mind about (a)(b)&(c). They all deal with MEL's, which if you have an MEL, there it is. It's on the MEL what you can and cannot do.

The question on everybody's mind is what can you do withOUT an MEL.

That is what 91.213(d) tells you.
(i) Is it required in original certification? (TCDS)
(ii) Is it required by the aircraft's equipment list? (POH)
(iii) Is it required by 91.205? (that's the one most people refer to only)
(iv) Is it required by an AD?

That's the list.
 
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