CFI Initial

averyrm

averyrm

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Well, I don't know if it's good or bad news, but in my area, it's tough to find an instructor who can teach a CFI because all the older CFI's are moving up to the airlines.

I've had to switch FBO's twice now. At some places, the most experienced CFI's have been instructing for two months.

Good news for the industry, bad news for me (at least for now). . .
 
Same thing happened to me. Luckily my instructor didn't leave for a regional until after my CFI initial checkride. But, you're right; there are not many good qualified CFI's out there that can teach a CFI student. There is a lot of ground involved in doing the CFI; a lot of it is on you to study your aaassss off. Make your own CFI binder and index the lesson plans, FOI's, systems, weather, aerodynamics, etc. The examiner will let you use all of it for the oral. No matter what anyone says on this forum, write your own lesson plans.
 
I did some of my own lesson plans, used some from the book available from Spotty's. I made damn sure I knew the lesson assigned to me for the checkride, though.
 
Good news for the industry, bad news for me (at least for now). . .

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Hey I have been instructing for 4 months myself and I have a CFI student. I think the student will do real well because I am fairly new and remember exactly what the examiner wanted.

I will climb off my horse now. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bandit.gif
 
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Good news for the industry, bad news for me (at least for now). . .

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Hey I have been instructing for 4 months myself and I have a CFI student. I think the student will do real well because I am fairly new and remember exactly what the examiner wanted.

I will climb off my horse now. /ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bandit.gif

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What kind of CFI student? Is it an initial one? Well I can't remember where it is at in the FAR's but have you got 200 hours dual in the last 4 months? Or was it 200 hours and 24 months? I am confused.

I am not trying to put you on the spot, just wondering if my interpretation of the reg is correct.
 
If it is part 61 you need to have had your CFI certificate for at least 24 months and 200 dual...part 141 is 400 dual I believe
 
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If it is part 61 you need to have had your CFI certificate for at least 24 months and 200 dual...part 141 is 400 dual I believe

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The instructor that signs off an initial CFI applicant must have the 24 months/200 dual given, ... but any CFI can give the training to a CFI student.
 
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The instructor that signs off an initial CFI applicant must have the 24 months/200 dual given, ... but any CFI can give the training to a CFI student.

[/ QUOTE ]It means a little more than that.

The regulation says

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a flight instructor who provides training to an initial applicant for a flight instructor certificate must... [have certain "Senior CFI" qualifications]
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not "endorses" not "signs off for a practical test, " but simply "provides training"

In practice that doesn't necessarily mean that a non-senior CFI can't be involved. But it does mean that when 61.187, for example, says that "A person who is applying for a flight instructor certificate must receive and log flight and ground training from an authorized instructor on the areas of operation listed in this section..." the "authorized instructor" is a Senior CFI and at least one log entry for each area of operation must be endorsed by a senior CFI.
 
Ahhh very good to know.

One flight school here will have you do the CFI gound/flight training with any CFI (senior or not), ... and then a review WITH a senior CFI who endorses the applicant for the ride.

Thanks for the clarification.
 
I just got my first CFI initial student. After not completing the assignment I gave him, he asked if I could let him take responsibility for his own ground training and not do any more........UM....NO!!!

I'm going to have him do ground lessons with a couple other CFI's, since he seems to think it's gonna take a long time doing the ground instruction with me and have them convince the CFI stud he is nowhere near prepared for the checkride.
 
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One flight school here will have you do the CFI ground/flight training with any CFI (senior or not), ... and then a review WITH a senior CFI who endorses the applicant for the ride.

[/ QUOTE ] For context, think in terms of what happens when a solo student's CFI leaves. A new CFI takes over and, at the very least, has the student demonstrate all of the pre-solo tasks so that the CFI can comply with the requirement that "A flight instructor may not endorse a...Student pilot's certificate or logbook for solo flight privileges, unless that flight instructor has ... - Given that student the flight training required for solo flight privileges required by this part" [61.195(d)]
 
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