CFI Initial spin endorsement

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jhugz said:
I hope we aren't talking about spinning a skyhawk for three hours. It's four rote items. Not the hardest thing in the world to do.
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Remember, the endorsement does not read that you demonstrated the ability to recover from a spin. It reads that you demonstrated instructor competance on stalls, spins and spin recovery, which in my eyes means you demonstrated the ability to teach spins and spin recovery in flight. Most CFI applicants can do a chandelle the first time (or should be able to since they were trained on it for the commercial ride). Not many are very good at teaching it the first time, however.
Yet very few CFI applicants that I have trained have ever done a spin before. It usually takes a few flights for them to feel comfortable talking about the spin and the recovery while they are doing it.
 
mojo6911 said:
Reading this, it seems to me like it would be OK for the junior CFI to give the training to get the guy ready, have him fly with the senior CFI and cover the required training in one or two flights, and then have the senior CFI sign the required endorsements?
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I think so. (for what that's worth). There's training in general and then there's required training. To say that you can't do this hits me as saying that once someone decides to start working on a CFI, he can't ever fly with a CFI other than a senior CFI.

But I have heard folks take the view that "a flight instructor who provides training to an initial applicant for a flight instructor certificate must ... Have held a flight instructor certificate for at least 24 months" means any instruction, so sorry, no flight reviews without a senior CFI.
 
Jbroz04 said:
Im going to get my CFI-G and teach gliders and fly the tow plane most of next summer because it is closer to my house.
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I've had more fun with gliders than anything else I can remember in aviation. Good luck on your CFI-G, I'm trying to get mine by the end of the year.

Guess I ought to get that taildragger endorsement so I can fly the Pawnee too.
 
I approached spins thinking I was going to hate them, mainly because I hated stalls.

I LOVED THEM!

I did do some acrobatic training afterwards, and though regulations say you just need to do spins with an instructor for a sign off, I have to say I agree with what several people have said previously, you should get training for some of the weirdest and most insane scenearios, mainly because eventually in the field of insttruction, you are going to come across an idiot who will try it.

This should be practiced by all instructors, not just ones who train CFIs.
 
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