Two day CFI initial is standard through one of the Feds from the Montana FSDO. Mine started on a Tuesday from 6PM to 9PM then Wednesday from 8AMto 3PM scheduled, ended up done a little early since I was doing my MEI as my intial CFI...8.5 hours oral 1.6 flight
CFI initial question
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Two day CFI initial is standard through one of the Feds from the Montana FSDO. Mine started on a Tuesday from 6PM to 9PM then Wednesday from 8AMto 3PM scheduled, ended up done a little early since I was doing my MEI as my intial CFI...8.5 hours oral 1.6 flight
jdlilfan
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MY guy passed yesterday! Took a month to finally get this done. Weather was bad and then FSDO kept rescheduling. Checkride went well and my student said he seemed well prepared. He ended up doing it all in the arrow since the inspector was giving us trouble about the two planes. Everything was done in a day. The Oral was 9am to around 1pm and then the flight was only 1 hr. They didn't even do the "hard" maneuvers like 180 accuracy's, steep spirals, and lazy eights.
Ajax
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Awesome! I've been trying to get my MEI scheduled for 2 months, finally I made the decision to go to a school in another area and knock the CFII & CFI out of the way then come back and do my MEI which I was planning on doing as the initial.
Glad your student passed and I'm happy for you that everything worked out.
Glad your student passed and I'm happy for you that everything worked out.
juskl
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The average CFI initial now is two days. The Oral is lasting anywhere from 6-10 hours and has been increasing it seems. Any and all topics are fair game. They seem to be putting much more emphasis on Mx issues (to the point of AP knowledge), and FOI. Just the way it has gone. But it is taking alot longer to get students ready for the ride. Not so much the flying aspects, but the grounds. I now take my students over to the hangar and hang with our Mx guys for several grounds to completely go over all systems... (I mean it, we trace everything...) also, I have been taking notes on everyone we send on checkrides to get the good, bad and ugly.. then add more grounds.. just the realities of it. But our students seem to be having less issues. However, some things do come up that make us shake our heads.
The latest also.. (make sure your students can teach without a sylllabus.. that they truly know their stuff), They don't want to see them look up every blessed item. We actually had students fail (when they knew the correct answer), but they didn't want to guess and look stupid... tell them to guess. An FAA examiner once asked one of our students.." so how much to you charge for ground instruction at this school?".. to which the student told them 57 per hour.. the response," Do you think you would want to pay 57 bucks an hour for the quality of instruction you are giving me, having to look up everything I ask you?" But puts it into perspective.
This is the hardest checkride most will ever have in their careers. Just have them ready and don't leave anything out.. then keep testing them over and over.. And don't send them till you think they will do well.. really well.. you will save them and you alot of headaches. Gone are the days of doing a few lesson plans, being able to fly decently and get the info out... Now you have to be on your A game and just flat know it all...
Oh yeah and just have them do all the ride in the Arrow.. two planes gets to be a pain.. The good news is that the flight is the flight and not much has changed there. Just the Oral has become soooo long. Two days is the norm now.. and all FSDO..
The latest also.. (make sure your students can teach without a sylllabus.. that they truly know their stuff), They don't want to see them look up every blessed item. We actually had students fail (when they knew the correct answer), but they didn't want to guess and look stupid... tell them to guess. An FAA examiner once asked one of our students.." so how much to you charge for ground instruction at this school?".. to which the student told them 57 per hour.. the response," Do you think you would want to pay 57 bucks an hour for the quality of instruction you are giving me, having to look up everything I ask you?" But puts it into perspective.
This is the hardest checkride most will ever have in their careers. Just have them ready and don't leave anything out.. then keep testing them over and over.. And don't send them till you think they will do well.. really well.. you will save them and you alot of headaches. Gone are the days of doing a few lesson plans, being able to fly decently and get the info out... Now you have to be on your A game and just flat know it all...
Oh yeah and just have them do all the ride in the Arrow.. two planes gets to be a pain.. The good news is that the flight is the flight and not much has changed there. Just the Oral has become soooo long. Two days is the norm now.. and all FSDO..