CFI-I or CFI-I (added rating) knowledge test

Ryan110175

Ryan110175

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I'm in need of some clarification between the two. I called Sheppard Air about getting their test prep software for a CFI-I (added rating), and they told me not to take that test. They advised me to take the CFI-I test instead. Apparently, the FAA doesn't give the questions out for the "added rating" to study and Sheppard can't guarantee passing. I wasn't even aware there were two different CFI-I knowledge tests. Apparently, the CFII test is 50 questions, as opposed to 30 for the added rating test. Does anyone have any insight into the difference. I'm wanting to knock the test out in the next couple days.
 
I think the add-on was 20 questions/1hr. I just did it. No biggie. If you are a CFII in another category, then just do the add-on. Mine was for helicopter and some regs are different. Otherwise it was a basic IFR quiz.
 
deadstick gave the correct information. Here is the publication that touches on that subject:

http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/ND/Order8080.6d.pdf

You want the FII test as opposed to the AIF test. I have known of people who took the wrong test because the folks at the testing center weren't knowledgeable about the nuances of the advanced ratings, so be sure to double check that you know what test you need to take and that is the one that they give you.
 
Wait are you saying that if I am a CFI with Instrument Airplane rating on my instructor certificate and I want to get add Instrument Helicopter then I'd have to take this test for the fourth time?
 
Wait a re you saying you've reached the level of CFII and still expect the FAA to use logic or to be reasonable in the Part 61 quagmire? ;) For the handful of regs that are different, I really this this one could be covered in an oral, but once again, the ARAC didn't ask for my input.

FMI:
61.191
61.183 (f)
 
deadstick said:
Wait a re you saying you've reached the level of CFII and still expect the FAA to use logic or to be reasonable in the Part 61 quagmire? ;) For the handful of regs that are different, I really this this one could be covered in an oral, but once again, the ARAC didn't ask for my input.

FMI:
61.191
61.183 (f)
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Well, let's think about that for a bit. Look at 14 CFR 61.29(a)(6)(iii). Now, imagine you walk into court and try to defend your actions as an instructor who failed to ensure that your student was shown to be deficient on their knowledge test. You tell the jury "it was just a couple little items" or "I really don't think that stuff is important". Imagine how that is going to play in court. Now, imagine a similar scenario. Except, this time you're trying to defend why that handful of regulations wasn't important enough for you to ensure the airman had knowledge of them. Also add in that you have infinitely deep pockets. In fact, your pockets are so deep that you own the printing presses where the money is printed. If you can imagine that, then you can see why the government requires that test.

You're correct that the regulations could be covered in an oral. However, that same logic could be extended to every test. Also, the test covers more than just regulations. By using both a written knowledge test and an oral test the risk of someone finding his or her self in a bad situation because they have a lack of understanding in some area is reduced.

There is a reason why the tests in every course of aviation instruction you take are "corrected to 100%". Personally, I'm glad it is that way. The part of the process that I find objectionable is the price charged to take the tests.
 
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