Cessnas to get Glass Cockpits

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Maybe, but they're not putting them on the 172s. The article said they're only offering them on new 182s and 206s.

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Thats because all that crap would really take a chunk out of a 172's useful load. Personally, I think its overkill.
 
Bulls$%&! ... looks like Flight Simulator to me.

Personally, I'd rather not have an LCD as big as my head flashing blue, brown and green while I'm tooling along on a moonless night.
 
Not too interested in flying an airliner eventually either then eh? Ever take a look at a 777?

It's different to us, but these kinds of systems provide better situational awareness and allows us to make better decisions quicker than we normally would be able to by looking at multiple instruments that are strewn across your aircraft (I know I had to reach clear across a 172 to get to the DME in the plane I did my instrument rating in, that sucked). You won't be moving your head around as much so when you're in the soup you have less of a chance of getting disoriented.

I think it's great that we can get such advanced avionics into our aircraft so cheaply. I mean think about it, what do you think the basic six instruments in an airplane cost, plus a VOR reciver, plus a com radio, plus maybe another VOR and com radio if you like that kinda stuff. Then you gotta add a transponder, then if you like GPS that's another $10,000 at the least if you want an IFR approved model. Want some terrain avoidance? Get an MFD that'll cost you another $10,000 at the least.

Everything in one bang for ONLY $25,000 more is a WONDERFUL deal. I mean think about it, if you want the NAV II package as it stands right now then you're going to pay the same amount as this G1000 package and you'll only add an HSI and an MFD to put weather and stormscope info on.

The G1000 is a heck of a deal when you crunch the numbers. Sure it's additional training for us, but once we learn how to use it's going to benefit us in ways that only a few of us here that fly behind MFD's on a daily basis understand.

Cheers


John Herreshoff
 
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Not too interested in flying an airliner eventually either then eh?

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Not anytime soon (if ever)...

Hell, I'm just starting to find the fun in shooting NDB approaches in IMC with a whipping wind!
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Yeah, I'm totally aware that glass cockpits "came down" to GA aircraft and think integrated, configurable avionics are beneficial. For one, there are almost no moving parts. Also, lots of information can be on data buses, making future developments easire to implement.

I just don't like this implementation...

Having looked at a 777, I see the PFD is mostly black with an approximately 5x5 inch AI and speed/altitude tapes on either side. The ND is mostly black, same for the MFDs, CDUs and all other D's and U's. I really wish that hadn't taken the AGATE artist's conception literally. If these are the same kind of screens Garmin uses in their 400/500 series boxes, they're bright.

Would a HUD in a 172 be dorky? (I hope not.)
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Glass cockpit or not....

Flying a new cessna is like "dating" an old girlfriend, she has lost a few pounds, got contacts. but she's the same as she was before.
 
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Not too interested in flying an airliner eventually either then eh? Ever take a look at a 777?

Cheers


John Herreshoff

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Not too interested.

But at the same time, I'm being sent to the world of NO round dials, so I have no choice in the world of automation matter any more!
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Once you get used to screens, you won't ever want the steam gages back.

I do agree that there needs to be a backup. Airliners have a standby "peanut" gyro in case the screens fail. I know of a couple of people who have had to do a peanut gyro approach to mins.
 
I think they're great! I guess a screen could go out just like anything else, but I wonder if these big screens will decrease the amount of accidents caused by IMC flights.
 
So how do you know how coordinated your turns are in one of those things? Do the screens show that somewhere or do you just have to tie a yaw string to your windshield?
 
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So how do you know how coordinated your turns are in one of those things? Do the screens show that somewhere or do you just have to tie a yaw string to your windshield?

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It's on the screen.
 
I found out this weekend that Civil Air Patrol will be going with the Garmin PFD+MFD option on new 182 purchases. ~$50/hr for a plane so-equipped is insane!
 
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I found out this weekend that Civil Air Patrol will be going with the Garmin PFD+MFD option on new 182 purchases. ~$50/hr for a plane so-equipped is insane!

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Hope Delaware gets some. They'll only be $25 an hour.......
 
Although, the Cessna and Cirrus does have backup electric airspeed, AI and alt, they are an included must haves that should help to keep you dirty side down in IMC.
 
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Once you get used to screens, you won't ever want the steam gages back.

I do agree that there needs to be a backup. Airliners have a standby "peanut" gyro in case the screens fail. I know of a couple of people who have had to do a peanut gyro approach to mins.

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I'm one of those weirdoes that at least one approach per trip, I'll turn off the flight director, switch the Nav Display to "Rose", turn off the autopilot and fly from 10,000, do an approach and land raw data.
 
I'm one of those weirdoes that at least one approach per trip, I'll turn off the flight director, switch the Nav Display to "Rose", turn off the autopilot and fly from 10,000, do an approach and land raw data.



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Good for you Doug, just like "your" actually flying instead of George. Brings back a little of the fun you used to have more often in GA, huh?
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Hope Delaware gets some. They'll only be $25 an hour.......

[/ QUOTE ]Highly unlikely. Delaware is a flatlander state, the 182s are for mountainous states. And the fuel burn alone is more than $25/hr, so the total rate would be $35-40 bare minimum. It's more in places like CA where maintenance costs are higher.
 
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Highly unlikely. Delaware is a flatlander state, the 182s are for mountainous states. And the fuel burn alone is more than $25/hr, so the total rate would be $35-40 bare minimum. It's more in places like CA where maintenance costs are higher.

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We've got two 182's. One an RG and one straight one. Last time I checked they only charged $25/hour for both of them......
 
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