Cessna vs Piper

B767 said:
Piper!

Planes are supposed to have a wing on the bottom.
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Says who...?!

And you don't have to break your back looking out the window while you're in the pattern.
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Right, but you have to run around like crazy during your pre-flight because Piper only has one door...

And you can't check the hinges on the rudder because you can't move it on the ground like you can in a Cessna...

And you need to remember to switch tanks because Piper never thought about BOTH...
 
TFaudree_ERAU said:
If you're talking flight characteristics, you have to be wary of an elevator block in a Traumahawk during the flare. At a high pitch angle (during flare or stall demonstration) the air flow over the tail may be blocked or disturbed by the wing.
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Alright, that makes sense. Would you consider it more difficult to land?
 
Is the 210 a turbo or just normally aspirated? I think Piper seating is definitely more comfortable if you are going to be cruising for longer periods of time but maintenance was just about as reliable on both in my experience.
 
I like low wing much better, especially if you're doing a lot of pattern work. I hate being in a turn in the pattern and not being able to see what is in the general direction of where I'm turning.
 
SmitteyB said:
Cessna. Pipers are wayyyyy too nose heavy.

I've flown a

Cessna...
152, 172, soon to be 310

Piper...
Arrow 200R

Beechcraft....
BE-76 Duchess

My opinion is Cessna's are great and the most forgiving airplane built. Especially the 172. Beechcraft made the best training twin ever, the Duchess.

But seriously- the cheaper one. 1 hour of Warrior time counts the same as 1 hour of 172 time.
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You have flown one Piper, and call them all noseheavy? Try a 182RG... Regular Cherokees aren't too bad, just make sure it has toe breaks. The 180HP Cherokees usually out perform 180HP 172s. The Cherokee 6 isn't that great of a plane, I would prefer the 210.
 
I've owned both. I'm partial to Cessna's. I like the barn door flaps and the ability to get the nose up at low speed for a soft field. I like the visibility. I honestly think Cessna made a better airplane, too, quality wise.

But in the end, it's really about which one YOU like better. It ain't no thing, either way....
 
Gotta go with the Cessna on this one. Most of my time is in PA28T and PA44. I'd say if you're looking at new airplanes, Cessna is by far the plane to go with. What they've done with the new T182s w/ G1000 decks is amazing. Piper seems to have been a lost child for the last several years.

All in all though, its which one you like best.
 
Do the people that mention visibility in a high wing during a turn remember all the times your CFI screamed at you to lift the wing and check before you started a turn in any direction? If its such a big deal, find yourself a 172 with skylights.

mojo6911 said:
The Cherokee 6 isn't that great of a plane
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You ain't flying one with enough horses.
 
Yes, but think about it this way. How much time do you spend turning. And how much time do you spead NOT turning.
 
Nothing like being blind to the world when you make your turns in the patter. Almost caused me a aluminum shower over PRC, live and learn.
 
Though I trust the structural integrity of either make, I always thought the Cessna interior parts lasted longer and were higher quality.

One example I can think of is brand new Piper Seminoles with the cowl flap handles falling off and not staying closed. I know the Seminole is a trainer and it's not the Piper Meridian but a brand new $400,000 airplane ought to have a cowl flap knob that doesn't fall on the floor!
 
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