Cessna crash video
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captainphil
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Should of properly done his weight and balance log, these are the mistakes you can not afford to make.
bob loblaw
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Looked like flaps 20 too me.
shooter13
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Weird
Anyone know what is going on. The text says it was some sort of medical flight. I can understand overloading in extreme situations but what I don't get is why when it became obvious he wasn't getting that into the air didn't he cut throttle and set it back down from 5 feet and maybe 65 kts instead of continuing to salvage it???
Anyone know what is going on. The text says it was some sort of medical flight. I can understand overloading in extreme situations but what I don't get is why when it became obvious he wasn't getting that into the air didn't he cut throttle and set it back down from 5 feet and maybe 65 kts instead of continuing to salvage it???
FlyingNole
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He's not a pilot, can't get it quite yet.....What I thought was kinda funny/ironic, was how the mother was already freakin out in the front seat before the engine even started
FlySooner9
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FlyingNole said:
If i had to guess i would say she was highly emotional because her son was dieing in the back. I do agree with one of the above posts about setting it back down. It also looked like he was way off centerline though also.
frog_flyer
FredFlyer
FlyingNole said:
i know! i saw the oxygen tank and i was like "WTF they videotapd the aftermath of the crash?! they have a preview of a cessna to the right.. when do i get to see?!!?"
Airdale
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You know this kind of thing is a shame, it really is, but what an idiot. Not doing W&B is one thing, but to really push the issue of getting airborne was a deadly mistake. I could tell when that nose wheel was in the air for about 5 secs and the mains were still down that he wasn't flying anywhere except into the ground. And right after she finally did get airborne, he had a wicked drift. I guess nobody ever taught him the importance of an aborted take-off before and after rotation. I never hesitate to abort a take off and even after rotation at 5 feet off the ground, close the throttles and bring the hell down! Worst case senario ya hit a tree or something. Better than falling a hundred feet into the ground.
Its a shame that people have to die because someone didn't think clearly. I think I read that everyone on board died except the pilot, but he is struggling to survive with 95% burns.
Its a shame that people have to die because someone didn't think clearly. I think I read that everyone on board died except the pilot, but he is struggling to survive with 95% burns.
frog_flyer
FredFlyer
heres a good aborted takeoff story
this was around hour 6 or so for me
hit 55 knots in 172, gently ease back, nothing happens, horn goes off, both me and my cfi reach for throttle to pull it back, our hands collide on the throttle. i jerk my hand back and look down just as she begins to pull the throttle out and see the throttle was out a quarter of the way. neither of us had pulled it out prior to that.
we had an unruly mag during the runup, so initial thought was something with the engine, but i let her take the next takeoff, we both watched the throttle slide out. in this particular plane the throttle slides out at climb attitute unless the friction is tightened to the throttle cannot be manipulated at all.
Being the 6 hour noob i was, i had taken my hand off the throttle during our roll, allowing it to come out.
that was a good lesson in why we keep our hand on the throttle when we're near the ground, especially on takeoff!
this was around hour 6 or so for me
hit 55 knots in 172, gently ease back, nothing happens, horn goes off, both me and my cfi reach for throttle to pull it back, our hands collide on the throttle. i jerk my hand back and look down just as she begins to pull the throttle out and see the throttle was out a quarter of the way. neither of us had pulled it out prior to that.
we had an unruly mag during the runup, so initial thought was something with the engine, but i let her take the next takeoff, we both watched the throttle slide out. in this particular plane the throttle slides out at climb attitute unless the friction is tightened to the throttle cannot be manipulated at all.
Being the 6 hour noob i was, i had taken my hand off the throttle during our roll, allowing it to come out.
that was a good lesson in why we keep our hand on the throttle when we're near the ground, especially on takeoff!
jrh
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Airdale said:
I'm not saying you're wrong, but in defense of the pilot...
If you're flying in the jungles of Columbia, you've probably been around the block a couple times in the world of aviation. Bush pilots in third world countries are generally experienced and constantly working on the fringes of what pilots in the mainland U.S. would consider acceptable. He'd probably been in similar heavily loaded/unimproved strip conditions before and made it out fine.
It's easy to say he should've done this or that, but he was probably a lot more comfortable pushing the limits of the plane than most of us would be. Maybe he was an idiot, maybe not. Without flying in his shoes for a while, I'd hesitate to judge one way or the other based on a single video.
FlyingNole
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jrh said:
Understandable...But lets use, ummm, the Delta 727 crash in DFW I believe. The crew were all very experienced and had thousands of hours with the company and the type. However because they let themselves get distracted, didnt follow procedure in finishing the checklist, and didnt review flight control settings before take off, people died. So even with knowing the crew's history, its still safe to say they made a dumb/careless error that caused the crash.
JaceTheAce
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I don't even think it was an actual airport - didn't even look like a grass strip. It's really sad that people still don't understand the importance of W&B... and simple negligence will cost you several lives.