Cessna Citation in Ash Cloud

galvestonaggie

galvestonaggie

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A friend of mine send this to me earlier and I thought I would post it for you guys:

This is a Cessna Citation (CJ2) that flew out of Germany a few weeks ago. The attached images are what happened to its Williams FJ 4-3A-24 when it was flown through the volcanic ash cloud still hanging over much of Europe. Luckily, the other engine kept running, although very sluggishly and the plane was able to make a safe landing. The holes are due to the turbine blades becoming so hot that they separated at the tips and blew through the containment shroud and with everything being clogged up with ash the hot air was unable to escape normally…...The blade and stator erosion is especially astounding!


 

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galvestonaggie said:
A friend of mine send this to me earlier and I thought I would post it for you guys:

This is a Cessna Citation (CJ2) that flew out of Germany a few weeks ago. The attached images are what happened to its Williams FJ 4-3A-24 when it was flown through the volcanic ash cloud still hanging over much of Europe. Luckily, the other engine kept running, although very sluggishly and the plane was able to make a safe landing. The holes are due to the turbine blades becoming so hot that they separated at the tips and blew through the containment shroud and with everything being clogged up with ash the hot air was unable to escape normally…...The blade and stator erosion is especially astounding!


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Absolute idiots.
 
Lol that is not what happened to this airplane. I read the real write up on the incident about a month ago. I don't recall the real cause but it had nothing to do with an ash cloud it think it was related to an oil pressure issue.

Alex.
 
If it poses a hazard to large transport category aircraft, why would these imbeciles attempt to fly through it?!? I have no tolerance for ignorance. They should have their certificates revoked just as any of us would here in the United States. Reckless operation.
 
CK said:
Lol that is not what happened to this airplane. I read the real write up on the incident about a month ago. I don't recall the real cause but it had nothing to do with an ash cloud it think it was related to an oil pressure issue.

Alex.
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I hope you're right...
 
CK said:
Lol that is not what happened to this airplane. I read the real write up on the incident about a month ago. I don't recall the real cause but it had nothing to do with an ash cloud it think it was related to an oil pressure issue.

Alex.
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When I saw the pics, I wondered if this was really from the ash cloud or something else. Especially when there are people that can fake something up. Does someone have the real write-up?
 
CK said:
Lol that is not what happened to this airplane. I read the real write up on the incident about a month ago. I don't recall the real cause but it had nothing to do with an ash cloud it think it was related to an oil pressure issue.

Alex.
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Alex thanks for the clarification, now I feel like a worthless email spammer! If you find the actual write up please let me know as I'm even more curious to what happened now.
 
USMCmech said:
I love how you made a judgment about the pilots in that case without knowing ANY of the facts.


Are they still reckless and incompetent since they made a safe landing after massive mechanical failure?
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They took off knowing there were volcanic ashes in the area, didn't they?

"Oh that guy took of with half a gallon in his tanks but he managed to land safely after experiencing a massive engine "failure",hes probably a good pilot too right?"

:rolleyes:
 
LV-ARG said:
They took off knowing there were volcanic ashes in the area, didn't they?

"Oh that guy took of with half a gallon in his tanks but he managed to land safely after experiencing a massive engine "failure",hes probably a good pilot too right?"

:rolleyes:
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No, it looks as if it had NOTHING to do w/ the ash but instead a major mechanical problem and they got the bird back on the ground. Sounds like some pretty solid pilotage to me.
 
CK said:
Lol that is not what happened to this airplane. I read the real write up on the incident about a month ago. I don't recall the real cause but it had nothing to do with an ash cloud it think it was related to an oil pressure issue.

Alex.
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Well at least he has a pleasant avatar. :buck:
 
jhugz said:
No, it looks as if it had NOTHING to do w/ the ash but instead a major mechanical problem and they got the bird back on the ground. Sounds like some pretty solid pilotage to me.
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Sorry I skimmed trough the thread and didnt see the post where it said it wasnt volcanic ashes. Good for them.
 
LV-ARG said:
They took off knowing there were volcanic ashes in the area, didn't they?
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I realize that the ash cloud was not the cause of this accident, but I would like to comment on the armchair captains who are so quick to judge.



So what if they did? Suppose an area was forecast to be free of ash, but they ran into some anyway. Suppose they imeadiatly turned toward clear air, but still suffered damage.

Just because a pilot runs into worse than expected weather, doesn't mean anything about their skill, knowledge, or judgment. This happens EVERY DAY to experianced pros and student pilots alike.

Weather reports can be wrong, and forecasts all have a significant margin of error. Sometimes you can do everything right and still wind up with a smoking hole in the ground.



I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Flying an airplane is NOT SAFE. If you do it long enough you WILL suffer some sort of calamity that results in broken metal and/or bodies. Only complete fools look a accident and say "I could never be that stupid".
 
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