CE-550 SIC training at CAE Simuflight

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Gonna be headed out to Simuflight in Dallas this January for SIC training in the CE-550. Any advice? Things I could study in advance? This is my first real job outside of instructing, so I'm a little nervous that training is only 2 weeks long. Any advice is appreciated.

Hopefully indoc class this week will give me a better idea of what to expect...
 
Is this for the Supporting Crewmember Program or are you here for an actual SIC type rating?

I'm right inbetween the the class work and the sim work. Don't let the first few days get to you. We hit all the big systems the first day and my head was about to explode. However, by day three I found myself actually knowing a thing or two. By the end of the week I almost pass for knowing what I was talking about :laff: Today is a review day before we go to the simulators. I guess I'll find out today what areas I need to study up on. Hopefully by now you know what the best way for you to study is. For me I usually spent 2 hours a night and review 30min in the morning. That 30min in the morning does wonders. It forces your brain to recall what you learned the night before. I also made my own study guide which really helped organize my thoughts and cut through the fat to learn what I really need. Our instructors keep saying, we're hear to have you fly the plane, not build it. A lot of guys freak out because they want to know what happens in every scenario with every switch and button. Just relax and have fun with it, and you'll do fine.

-Brett
 
I am also at Simuflite DFW for an initial type, although its a westwind type. I start the sim sessions tomorrow. I made flashcards with the limitations and memory items on them before I started the ground school portion. I think it helped alot, you will be able to focus on the systems more instead of cramming numbers.

The facility here is great, cafateria and all, and the people are very friendly. Oddly enough my major complaint is the instruction I have been (not) recieving. Our ground instructor is a very old man who has come out of retirement to teach this initial class for the first time in 3 years. He is extremely nice, but is very rusty, gets off topic alot, and quite frankly is not conveying the material effectively for anyone in the class. There have been no emphasis areas and no guidance as to what to look over. Its very discouraging for my first initial. The other class members agree that the training has been far less than par. I am sure glad its not my money tied up in it.

Hopefully the sim sessions are with a better instructor, this place was very hyped up to me for being very effective, unfortunately I think my classmates and I got the bad apple of the bunch. So..I am trying to read and teach myself as much as I can.

If things go as they are supposed to here I think it is a great program, learn the limitations and memory items-youll be set.
 
The others have posted some good information. I don't have a CE-550 type, but having just got an Excel type, I can say that Citations are fairly straight forward. My first type was in a Falcon 10 and I was quite surprised at how much less stressed I was getting the Excel type. Just don't overwhelm yourself and you'll do great!

I'm glad to see more biz jet guys on the board too! There are too many airline junkies around here :D
 
I was out there in October for the LJ55 course. Every instructor is there to help you. Just think how many people have gone through it before you. I guarantee there was someone that had less motivation and less common sense/brain capacity than you, and they did just fine. Relax, have fun, and enjoy the $24 "minimum fare" cab ride from DFW.
 
Im gonna guess its gonna be a standard check ride. Which means that for the oral know your memory items and limitations down cold. Know all speeds, weights, etc. Know what the annunciators mean, and know all the engine limits, ITT, n1/n2 limits.

The flight will be pretty standard, depending on your examiner, most likely youll have to do the main things, Normal takeoff, climb to an altitude, do steep turns and stalls. May have to do an emergency decent. Prob get 1 or 2 small malfunctions on the
way up, call for checklist, dont be in a hurry. Come back down and do a circling approach, land. Do a low vis takeoff most likely with a rejected takeoff. Then redo, get a v1 cut, prob restart in the air, they may make you fly a published miss to a holding pattern, then come back around for a 2 engine ILS to a miss, have an engine failure on the go around, secure the engine. Come back in for a low 1800 RVR ils. Land. Take off, fly a GPS or some non precision approach, go missed and then fly a visual no flap to a landing.


Just a guess though.
 
It's pretty much the ATP Practical Test Standards. Give those a read and you should have everything. In the check rides I've done you can use autopilot and call for the copilot to do whatever you need; except for steep turns you are on your own there.

OOPS - read you are doing SIC not PIC. That would apply to PIC. Have you considered just doing the PIC? (assuming for your company it's not all that much more $).
 
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