CDOs/Standups

[roundout]

The problem I saw with people doing them regularly was they’d do the crap CDOs with 4-5 hours rest, and that was it for them for 24 hours. They’d get home and go to another job or take the kids or whatever.

By about day 3 they were worthless.

SLEEP? I DON'T NEED MUCH SLEEP!! NEVER HAVE!. I'M GOOD!


medicals out at 48

 

[Maurus]

Is anybody still running these post 117? Regional or Major/Legacy.

PSA makes them on holidays. At least they did when I was there.

The software won't make them naturally.

 

[Maurus]

They're not allowed at my company. But you can end up on one during irregular operations under certain circumstances and if you agree to it.

Some of us want them because "BrandX/Old Days/Whatever" but I'm glad we don't… And they probably wouldn't fly them anyway so some poor reserve gets stuck with it.

Who needs standups when you have red-eyes!

 

[derg]

I love our trips that go

LAS-ATL 0058-0600

ATL-PHX 2100-0000
PHX-ATL 0100-0600

ATL-LAS 2100-2330

Your liver must be very happy!

 

[Flyinthrew]

The D's pilot contract forbids them in pre-month rotation construction, but Crew Scheduling is allowed to fashion them out of broken rotations and they frequently do on the narrow bodies. They go SUPER senior at STAIGHT PAY.

 

[ASpilot2be]

Your liver must be very happy!

Yes, but the rest of me is not. I can only do so much day sleeping.

 

[SeanD]

Yes, but the rest of me is not. I can only do so much day sleeping.

Are you still living in LAS?

 

[roundout]

Your liver must be very happy!

He’s too fatigued to drink

 

[ASpilot2be]

Are you still living in LAS?

I am based there, but commute out of PDX.

 

[tiredcfi]

Not at our shop but there are these atrocious two leg redeye turns:

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Red eye turns go fairly senior at my shop because they pay at least 10:30.

 

[DeltaAlphaNovember]

I would get the occasional Akron CDO back in my PSA days. I was okay with it because it would get me out of hot reserve at 0500.

Now I get to fly the rocket to SA out of Miami. Being a commuter I don't mind it so much.

 

[Dexter]

The D's pilot contract forbids them in pre-month rotation construction, but Crew Scheduling is allowed to fashion them out of broken rotations and they frequently do on the narrow bodies. They go SUPER senior at STAIGHT PAY.

and lots of senior guys hunt them for violations (eg. not booking the earliest dhd back to base.) Get dropped with pay and then pick up the correctly built rotation 10 mins later to get 21 hours of pay to fly 1 hour.