Caravan SIC?
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wheelsup
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Cav said:
What makes you say that? SIC in a 208 in a 91 environment, worthless? Yes. SIC in a 135 environment is hardly 'worth less' than dual given in a Cessna.
Why do I think that?
- You've proven you can pass some sort of training program
- You've proven you can pass a 10 year background check
- You've operated closely with paying customers on a day to day basis
- You've sucessfully operated in a 135 environment and kept your nose clean, showing that you can follow standard procedures
- You've operated into and out of airports in all kinds of weather, more so than what a 172 could handle (of course this is in HI, so what weather is there?!? lol)
- You've operated in the IFR environment (again, this is in HI but I'm making assumptions for the rest of the 48 states as well) MUCH more than the average CFI/CFI-I.
Doing it for 1000+ hours might get be a bit much, but a couple hundred hours of 135 time will help in the job search down the road, IMO. As an example, Chautauqua hires mostly 135/121 pilots as of late. I was trying to get on with 2000/300 multi, with inside people emailing my resume to Rosa for 8 months, to no avail. I'm convinced if I had some 135 time under my wing I would've gotten called (as evidenced by the multitude of Airnet guys going there).
This job would be perfect for someone who lived or wanted to live in HI. I wouldn't move there for this job as a timebuilder, however.
~wheelsup
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Just a thought to anyone intersted in the SIC position in Hawaii......I applied a few months ago with only 260 hours TT. They contacted me right away and offered me an interview....however transportation to/from, as well as accomadations must be provided by yourself. They also sent me a FAQ word doc to give me more info on the position. It wasn't for me due to pay/living costs in HI, but if you are interested and don't meet the mins, I would still recommend applying.
They are super prompt getting back to you and very helpful with any questions you have regarding the position. Also...although it is NOT a pay for training program....you are req'd to sign a 1 yr. pro-rated contract for $8,000. Meaning if you quit after just 6 mo., you would owe them $4000. Hope this helps
Just a thought to anyone intersted in the SIC position in Hawaii......I applied a few months ago with only 260 hours TT. They contacted me right away and offered me an interview....however transportation to/from, as well as accomadations must be provided by yourself. They also sent me a FAQ word doc to give me more info on the position. It wasn't for me due to pay/living costs in HI, but if you are interested and don't meet the mins, I would still recommend applying.
They are super prompt getting back to you and very helpful with any questions you have regarding the position. Also...although it is NOT a pay for training program....you are req'd to sign a 1 yr. pro-rated contract for $8,000. Meaning if you quit after just 6 mo., you would owe them $4000. Hope this helps
Philip said:
I would have to say no to commuting b/c of the fact that not only are you flying SIC for them, but also handling bags, working customer service etc.... I'm pretty sure you wouldn't fly full time for them until at least 6mo. into employment. (can't guarantee that is 100% correct).
For only $8.00 an hour, I find it hard to see how I could make it (bills, rent etc...) Of course, if you have family in HI, or just lots of money and pay doesn't matter, well then that's a whole different story.
As I mentioned before, it's worth checking out if you are interested......at least to get more information directly from them
kellwolf
Piece of Trash
wheelsup said:
The first three I proved as a ramper at SWA and XJT. No need to even have a pilot's license for that. The third one, you're not PIC, so it's easier to keep your nose clean when you aren't really responsible for the aircraft. It would be just like any other job: show up, follow the rules and be the quiet new guy. Fourth, like you said, it's HI
. Last one, IMO the IFR environment is a lot more workload intensive shooting multiple approaches or flying arrivals and departures than being at cruise for an hour and a half. But, those are all just my opinions. Airline recruiters probably think differently.IMO, I don't like this program. Sounds like a way to get cheap ramp labor by dangling the flight time carat. If someone offered a program like this in a 1900 or an ERJ, people would be screaming PFT. But, since it says "Cessna" on the plane and it's not at an airline......
bullmastiff
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So the 8000 they give you up front is pay for the year Or is it a bonus to help with moving costs, and then you still gett he standard 8 bux per hour? Thanks
bullmastiff said:
There is NO $8,000 up front. You are signing an $8,000 training contract. This means that the company will pay for your training which they estimate to be $8,000.
You are then req'd (by contract) to work for the company for 12 months. If you fail to do so, you then owe the company a pro-rated amount of the $8,000.
For example, if you quit the job after 6 months, you would owe them $4,000. Again, if you quit the job after only 1 month, you would owe the company 92% of the $8,000 which would be ~$7,333. Make sense?
Also, as far as I know, all moving costs are your own responsibility
hattrick
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they get plenty of guys doing this. some people just really do not want to instruct and so they have to find other ways to build time. as you saw the one guy was offered an interview with 260tt. so theres his alternative plan rather than spending the time and money for the cfi. i also have to agree that its a great way to gain experience. one can learn alot from the guys that have been doing it for years. now his 1000 hours of C-208 time might be looked down upon by a lot of companys but there are also alot that would love to hire him especially the company hes been flying for. he already knows the companies procedure. im not saying i would ever do this but i can understand those that do
ComplexHiAv8r
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subpilot said:
And you can't even live on the beach anymore in Waimanalo
I would love to get back to HI!