Krystal
Dispatch Betty
Lol! I dunno, its a phone call. Buuut, Ive seen pilots do weird things before so you never know!
Canadian ATC facepalm moment....
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Krystal
Dispatch Betty
I didnt think about that. its an 800 number. Score one for being on top of things today.
I know that they cant call when they first land because they have to go through customs so guess he waited until he got to the hotel...maybe? perhaps? I dunno. I dont know why pilots do half the stuff they do.
amorris311
Well-Known Member
Seggy said: ↑
Was he wearing his hat while Skyping?
Lol! I dunno, its a phone call. Buuut, Ive seen pilots do weird things before so you never know!
Was he wearing his hat while Skyping?
Lol! I dunno, its a phone call. Buuut, Ive seen pilots do weird things before so you never know!
Seggy
Well-Known Member
amorris311 said:Seggy said: ↑
Was he wearing his hat while Skyping?
Lol! I dunno, its a phone call. Buuut, Ive seen pilots do weird things before so you never know!
You are going to be standing in the mirror for hours on end, staring at yourself in your new uniform that now requires a hat.
amorris311
Well-Known Member
I'll make sure to FaceTime you so you can watch with me.
CamYZ125
Well-Known Member
The skype thing makes sense. Could have called the 800# from a phone in the airport, but she's right that most of us won't make a call from canada on our own phone because of the international charges. Not that he needed to call at all... but who knows.
And yes, saskatoony is a bit odd when the tower is 'closed'. I feel like im caught between an uncontrolled airport and a controlled one, with the Radio guy acknowledging all of my calls on CTAF.
And yes, saskatoony is a bit odd when the tower is 'closed'. I feel like im caught between an uncontrolled airport and a controlled one, with the Radio guy acknowledging all of my calls on CTAF.
Nick
Well-Known Member
What it always reminds me of is Catalina Island. The guy on the CTAF there thinks he's running the place like a towered airport, telling you the active runway.
Although I take that guy more seriously than Charlotte ramp control.
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
Sorry I'm so late to this thread.
Thanks to another member for bringing it to my attention.
I apologize, but there's enough ignorance in this thread that I'd rather just not comment. It would seem that opinions have been formed based on little to no experience.
As pilot, IFR controller, and former ramp hand of 8 years, I find no surprises on anything you posted, nor do I find anything wrong with it at face value.
With regards to the lightning detection system, it's put in place to save lives. If you've got a problem with how it works, stop bitching at the Ramp guys or the airport, call the company that makes the gear. Trust me the airport authority would send the ramp agents into the fire in order to save the airlines $50 if they could
Thanks to another member for bringing it to my attention.
I apologize, but there's enough ignorance in this thread that I'd rather just not comment. It would seem that opinions have been formed based on little to no experience.
As pilot, IFR controller, and former ramp hand of 8 years, I find no surprises on anything you posted, nor do I find anything wrong with it at face value.
With regards to the lightning detection system, it's put in place to save lives. If you've got a problem with how it works, stop bitching at the Ramp guys or the airport, call the company that makes the gear. Trust me the airport authority would send the ramp agents into the fire in order to save the airlines $50 if they could
canadian_atc - can flight 34 get a shortcut across your airspace tonight? . Preeeeeetty please?
. Preeeeeetty please?
dasleben
That's just, like, your opinion, man
canadian_atc - can flight 34 get a shortcut across your airspace tonight?
Direct 50W, and don't tell him he never did nothin' for ya!
Baronman
Well-Known Member
I've found that most of the phones in the jetways of the Canadian airports I operate out of (YYZ,YUL,YQM,YYT,YQB,YOW) will call our work 1-800 number. They also have wi-fi (free and good) in most of the Canadian terminals. Worst case I'd try Skyping.
I wouldn't mind Krystal working my flight...seems more interested than most of the dispatchers I deal with.
I wouldn't mind Krystal working my flight...seems more interested than most of the dispatchers I deal with.
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
I think me and my trainee worked your flight too, sorry didn't check in timecanadian_atc - can flight 34 get a shortcut across your airspace tonight?
Coriolan
Active Member
Uncontrolled airports is always something tricky especially when you have IFR nad VFR traffic.
But if the King Air was VFR, and that the airport is uncontrolled and that your pilot was cleared by ATC for runway 27 ... it means that 1) it is of course a controller that is not on the airport
2) The King Air being VFR, has no obligation to report to the controller as long as he doesn't fly into the control zone above or the one nearest
3) there is no way for the ATC to know actually if the Runway is clear or not ... which makes it the pilots responsibility to look for traffic, and in Canada if you fly IFR to an uncontrolled airport you have to report 5 min prior your ETA to that airport your intentions and what approach you will shoot and on what runway you are going to land.
If he did that, and the King Air never gave nay reply, it means someone wasn't listening on the mandatory frequency.
But if the King Air was VFR, and that the airport is uncontrolled and that your pilot was cleared by ATC for runway 27 ... it means that 1) it is of course a controller that is not on the airport
2) The King Air being VFR, has no obligation to report to the controller as long as he doesn't fly into the control zone above or the one nearest
3) there is no way for the ATC to know actually if the Runway is clear or not ... which makes it the pilots responsibility to look for traffic, and in Canada if you fly IFR to an uncontrolled airport you have to report 5 min prior your ETA to that airport your intentions and what approach you will shoot and on what runway you are going to land.
If he did that, and the King Air never gave nay reply, it means someone wasn't listening on the mandatory frequency.
FLflyer
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You apparently have never been to EWR, ORD, or IAD...
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
Krystal,
I want to ask what your company minimums are for RVR's, and I'd like at the same time to ask if you know what the minimum RVR's are for Canadian operators?
I ask because you're implying that "Canadians" which is a pretty broad stroke, don't get things done. Also, I would like you to point out a case where there was a Red Alert detection and the ramp and any airport continued to function.
I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I admit I already know the answers to my questions, but if "Americans" just "Get it done", I wonder if you've actually spent the time to understand how the entire system works, instead of attacking sporadic events.
Your enthusiasm to your work is admirable, as most people don't have that kind of drive. I would suggest, for the longevity of your career and your own personal health, that you take the time to understand, rather than making blatant uneducated internet posts.
Trust me, I've been there and done that in that regard.
I want to ask what your company minimums are for RVR's, and I'd like at the same time to ask if you know what the minimum RVR's are for Canadian operators?
I ask because you're implying that "Canadians" which is a pretty broad stroke, don't get things done. Also, I would like you to point out a case where there was a Red Alert detection and the ramp and any airport continued to function.
I appreciate your enthusiasm, and I admit I already know the answers to my questions, but if "Americans" just "Get it done", I wonder if you've actually spent the time to understand how the entire system works, instead of attacking sporadic events.
Your enthusiasm to your work is admirable, as most people don't have that kind of drive. I would suggest, for the longevity of your career and your own personal health, that you take the time to understand, rather than making blatant uneducated internet posts.
Trust me, I've been there and done that in that regard.
Vector4Food
This job would be easier without all the airplanes
Also I want to add to this thread, it was posted that when the Tower closes here in Canada "The same people now provide advisory"
That's not the case, the Tower controllers go home, and FSS (Flight service specialists) take over. Often at many airport these types of operations are done via RAAS (Remote Airport Advisory Service) from another 24 hour FSS station .
That's not the case, the Tower controllers go home, and FSS (Flight service specialists) take over. Often at many airport these types of operations are done via RAAS (Remote Airport Advisory Service) from another 24 hour FSS station .