Can an A321 do this?

Skåning said:
I’m actually surprised they can make it to FL320 initially 😆
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If you said this on our APC side the 320 mob would come to your house

Nothing can ever be said wrong with that airplane. Similar to a lot of 757/767 lovers
 
nabbyfan said:
The 8 A321’s we get all trying to do a westbound oceanic crossing at FL320 within 5 mins of each other, on a Two Way track with ZAK not approving IAFDOF, all claiming they won’t be able to make it at any other alt besides 320 is getting real old.

Bring back the 75’s that can actually make it to Hawaii or tell your airline to stop sending 5 of you at a time all back to back to back off the runway headed to FICKY, and then being surprised when 320 isn’t available for all of you. Pilots been getting real chippy recently out there like it’s somehow our fault at the Center lol.
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The odd thing is that with the Pratts at least, the difference between crossing at 320 and 260 was only about 1000lbs of gas. Back when we were pretty much the only 321s out there, we'd get 4000 foot blocks down there all the time.
 
tcco94 said:
Now I’m not saying plug 757’s back on them. That’s not the solution. We need something long term here to replace the 757. All I’m saying is our neo’s seem to be underwhelming in performance so far and I’m not very impressed compared to other models we could have bought of the neo. It’s non stop stories and excuses. I love the airplane from a passenger standpoint and hope we figure it out. I wish we would have just invested in some of the better performing models.
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The 320Neo is Fine. It’s not amazing, merely fine.
 
statusseeker1 said:
Hey Bus drivers— had a bad night last night. Tried to go PHX to BOS on a redeye but got diverted to CLT because “the A321NEO is unable to both depart from PHX under current temperature and weather conditions and also fly around weather to get as far as BOS” according to crew. PHX was typical 42C at 10 pm. It was a an absolute cluster**** getting us to BOS after that of course. My question: shouldn’t an A321 be able to depart a high DA field and also carry enough gas for a 5 hour block flight+30 mins maneuvering gas? Also, how was this flight even dispatched? Directly through the weather? For context, DAL launched a 739 a couple hours after us and went north around the weather over the central US.
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I apologize if I'm repeating some other responses.

There are many variables that go into the equation. The other night runway 08/26 was listed as closed in the ATIS. We had an alternate and had to carry extra fuel. We used the magic words to use Runway 08, but the tower said no dice due to overnight construction. This caused us to be weight restricted. We made it work but had to crunch some numbers and consider using a headwind credit. I'm not sure about the performance on a 737-900 but I think it seats about 20ish fewer passengers. Also I don't know the flight loads, was the AA flight full? What about the DAL flight? As few as 10 empty seats could have made the difference in making it to BOS VS flying to CLT.

Why fly to CLT? Simple. It's a large hub and crew base with flights to Boston. There are almost always extra ground crews available to handle flights. Let's say the flight was dispatched to stop for fuel at an airport just north or south of the weather in the upper Midwest. There's a good chance everyone at the station would have gone home for the night. Or if their shifts had just started they are only properly staffed to work the flights that go out early that morning. Now you could potentially run into a ground delay waiting to be parked and for fuel. The last piece of this puzzle is the crew, are they properly rested for a 2 leg redeye with a possibly lengthy fuel stop? Now the crew is fatigued at an airport that's not a crew base and no flights to Boston, so you're waiting for a crew to be deadheaded in from the nearest crew base. Even worse would be the airline cancels your flight so you have to be rebooked to connect through a hub and then on to your final destination.
 
statusseeker1 said:
Hey Bus drivers— had a bad night last night. Tried to go PHX to BOS on a redeye but got diverted to CLT because “the A321NEO is unable to both depart from PHX under current temperature and weather conditions and also fly around weather to get as far as BOS” according to crew. PHX was typical 42C at 10 pm. It was a an absolute cluster**** getting us to BOS after that of course. My question: shouldn’t an A321 be able to depart a high DA field and also carry enough gas for a 5 hour block flight+30 mins maneuvering gas? Also, how was this flight even dispatched? Directly through the weather? For context, DAL launched a 739 a couple hours after us and went north around the weather over the central US.
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Im curious as to why a southern route wasn't utilized. Through TN and VA and then up to BOS?
 
tcco94 said:
Similar to a lot of 757/767 lovers
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In fairness, only the Har-Har-ER people think the 321Neo is a “757 replacement.” And that term is used with considerable irony and derision when it is used at all. The economics of that airplane are exceptionally difficult to argue for the things that it’s rightly capable of.
 
GaTechKid said:
One summer on the 737-900 going SLC-RDU, we had to make a fuel stop in MCI. It happens.
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900ER*

The original -900 came out with -800 weights. Max T/O 174.2 like an -800 but a larger capacity. Those original -900 sacrificed range for more payload. It didn’t last long. Our shop and United each have 12 of them, and only 52 were ever made.

That said, it lands the best of all the -NGs. Its artificially inflated Vspeeds that make it land and feel exactly like an A321NEO landing. It has that stable, wobbly feeling to it.
 
Cherokee_Cruiser said:
900ER*

The original -900 came out with -800 weights. Max T/O 174.2 like an -800 but a larger capacity. Those original -900 sacrificed range for more payload. It didn’t last long. Our shop and United each have 12 of them, and only 52 were ever made.

That said, it lands the best of all the -NGs. Its artificially inflated Vspeeds that make it land and feel exactly like an A321NEO landing. It has that stable, wobbly feeling to it.
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You are smoking crack. Those planes fly and land like hot garbage.
 
Autothrust Blue said:
In fairness, only the Har-Har-ER people think the 321Neo is a “757 replacement.” And that term is used with considerable irony and derision when it is used at all. The economics of that airplane are exceptionally difficult to argue for the things that it’s rightly capable of.
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"It's never going to make Hawaii!"

"IT'S NEVER GOING TO MAKE HAWAII! They'll see!"

"Wait, they only burned WHAT going to Hawaii with a full boat?"
 
derg said:
"It's never going to make Hawaii!"

"IT'S NEVER GOING TO MAKE HAWAII! They'll see!"

"Wait, they only burned WHAT going to Hawaii with a full boat?"
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I get a little chuckle out of the SWA dudes wearing their "ETOPS" lanyards. Is there a secret handshake too?
 
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