C90 horizontal stabilizer departs in flight.

Typical school house rumors, but ... I heard they hadn't turned the 02 on and condensation froze the system when they dumped the cabin and charged the lines. At least that's how I remember the story from when I was doing recurrent in '09. Regardless, depressurizing wasn't the right move for a single pane fracture.
 


I believe they didn't charge the oxygen lines (left handle) on the ground. This is necessary because the valve is prone to freezing. So they dumped the cabin, donned masks, etc. and THEN realized they hadn't charged the lines. They went to pull the handle, but guess what, the valve was frozen. Soooo they took a little nap.
 
I believe they didn't charge the oxygen lines (left handle) on the ground. This is necessary because the valve is prone to freezing. So they dumped the cabin, donned masks, etc. and THEN realized they hadn't charged the lines. They went to pull the handle, but guess what, the valve was frozen. Soooo they took a little nap.
Indeed
 
I wonder how many times somebody screws around on the descent after the jumpers depart. I'm not saying that particular pilot did, but what about all of the others? I believe the majority of airframe failures is a result of exceeding the negative load limit.

As for that 200, that crew screwed that up before they started engines. That was a new >BB-1600 and had in the checklist what to do. Also, I know a guy who flies at CGI and said that plane flew out of there on a ferry permit.
Actually I was gonna guess that what really happened was the guy was dicking around and broke the airplane and made up some story about a stall to cover his ass. Heard too many stupid stories from jumper drivers.
 
Actually I was gonna guess that what really happened was the guy was dicking around and broke the airplane and made up some story about a stall to cover his ass. Heard too many stupid stories from jumper drivers.

Wouldn't shock me. Hopefully some eye whiteness testimony will shed some light. I have seen two different walk around videos of this aircraft and st initial glance there doesn't seem to be significant signs of stress anywhere.
 
Check this story out about a king air 200. I don't know if this makes me feel better or worse about flying the 350 [emoji23]

Video of the landing


to Virginia from Arkansas when, at 27,000 feet, the left windshield shattered causing an immediate and rapid decompression. Given your useful consciousness at this altitude is measured in seconds, both pilots blacked out. (Fortunately, there were no
passengers on board).

Whether they initiated a rapid descent or lost control and ended up in a steep dive is not known as the two pilots have little recollection of the event both fading in and out of consciousness until shortly before landing.

They took turns, unintentionally, of waking up and blacking out and fighting to regain control of the aircraft. One pilot stated "I remember thinking we'r e in a spin and seeing that the airspeed was pegged beyond indicated.
I thought, wow, we're going too fast, reached up and pulled the power to idle, then blacked out again".

Assume they were pretty much at terminal velocity headed straight down.

At 13,000 feet, (give or take), they started fighting to pull the aircraft out of a dive.
It took both of them.
The stress on the airframe must have been unreal, as you will see.

From that point, parts started leaving the aircraft until landing and they lost control of pitch.
They went almost vertical again and it took both pilots pushing as hard as they could to get the aircraft to start descending.

They regained some control around 7,000 feet and were close to cape where they diverted.

It is fortunate that they did not have a tail stall as you will see, and I have no earthly idea how they controlled pitch.

There is a God and sometimes he gets your attention to remind you how close we could all be to standing before him.
There is no way this aircraft could have been flown and landed to a relatively uneventful landing and they walk away.
I cannot explain it and I think you will see what I mean especially after viewing the empennage.

According to the radar, they lost 20,000 feet in roughly a minute and a half.

The aircraft is totaled, but again, they taxied to the ramp. Waited a few hours, and got a car and drove home.

Fortunately, the windscreen did not come in completely, but still should have most likely been fatal at that altitude.
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GOOD LORD.

That's an INSANE feat of aero engineering and piloting skills.
 
Check this story out about a king air 200. I don't know if this makes me feel better or worse about flying the 350 [emoji23]

Video of the landing


to Virginia from Arkansas when, at 27,000 feet, the left windshield shattered causing an immediate and rapid decompression. Given your useful consciousness at this altitude is measured in seconds, both pilots blacked out. (Fortunately, there were no
passengers on board).

Whether they initiated a rapid descent or lost control and ended up in a steep dive is not known as the two pilots have little recollection of the event both fading in and out of consciousness until shortly before landing.

They took turns, unintentionally, of waking up and blacking out and fighting to regain control of the aircraft. One pilot stated "I remember thinking we'r e in a spin and seeing that the airspeed was pegged beyond indicated.
I thought, wow, we're going too fast, reached up and pulled the power to idle, then blacked out again".

Assume they were pretty much at terminal velocity headed straight down.

At 13,000 feet, (give or take), they started fighting to pull the aircraft out of a dive.
It took both of them.
The stress on the airframe must have been unreal, as you will see.

From that point, parts started leaving the aircraft until landing and they lost control of pitch.
They went almost vertical again and it took both pilots pushing as hard as they could to get the aircraft to start descending.

They regained some control around 7,000 feet and were close to cape where they diverted.

It is fortunate that they did not have a tail stall as you will see, and I have no earthly idea how they controlled pitch.

There is a God and sometimes he gets your attention to remind you how close we could all be to standing before him.
There is no way this aircraft could have been flown and landed to a relatively uneventful landing and they walk away.
I cannot explain it and I think you will see what I mean especially after viewing the empennage.

According to the radar, they lost 20,000 feet in roughly a minute and a half.

The aircraft is totaled, but again, they taxied to the ramp. Waited a few hours, and got a car and drove home.

Fortunately, the windscreen did not come in completely, but still should have most likely been fatal at that altitude.
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HOLY COW!!! That is insane!!!
They intentionally dumped the cabin before they put on Oxygen?
What for??

If I felt good about the King Air, this cemented it
 
I believe they didn't charge the oxygen lines (left handle) on the ground. This is necessary because the valve is prone to freezing. So they dumped the cabin, donned masks, etc. and THEN realized they hadn't charged the lines. They went to pull the handle, but guess what, the valve was frozen. Soooo they took a little nap.

I'm still scratching my head on WHY would you dump the cabin, regardless?

FIFY...in this case Beech made the KA dang-near idiot proof.
That's why I love that aircraft. Emergency checklists are basically "reset the switch. If it doesn't fix it, keep flying, I'll handle it". Particularly the autofeather will give you a false sense of security
 
That's why I love that aircraft. Emergency checklists are basically "reset the switch. If it doesn't fix it, keep flying, I'll handle it". Particularly the autofeather will give you a false sense of security

What amazes me are the pilots who feel they know more about the capabilities of the aircraft than the people at Beech or Pratt. You know the type...limitations are suggestions and you don't exceed them if nobody else sees it happen. The think their experience supercedes a PhD in structures and metallurgy.

Those are the types who screw around and then leave a ticking time bomb for the next pilot, like this guy who lost the horizontal stab. Just because these reckless pilots haven't had an immediate failure during one of their adventures doesn't mean they haven't done damage to he aircraft. It just hasn't been found yet.
 
What amazes me are the pilots who feel they know more about the capabilities of the aircraft than the people at Beech or Pratt. You know the type...limitations are suggestions and you don't exceed them if nobody else sees it happen. The think their experience supercedes a PhD in structures and metallurgy.

Those are the types who screw around and then leave a ticking time bomb for the next pilot, like this guy who lost the horizontal stab. Just because these reckless pilots haven't had an immediate failure during one of their adventures doesn't mean they haven't done damage to he aircraft. It just hasn't been found yet.
"Someone at Cessna told me you can put the flaps down at Vne on a 206 and it won't hurt them."

- Idiot who will eventually die... or live forever as a lot of idiots do.

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What amazes me are the pilots who feel they know more about the capabilities of the aircraft than the people at Beech or Pratt. You know the type...limitations are suggestions and you don't exceed them if nobody else sees it happen. The think their experience supercedes a PhD in structures and metallurgy.

Those are the types who screw around and then leave a ticking time bomb for the next pilot, like this guy who lost the horizontal stab. Just because these reckless pilots haven't had an immediate failure during one of their adventures doesn't mean they haven't done damage to he aircraft. It just hasn't been found yet.

I was thinking the exact same thing, as well as "I wonder how many times that thing did a split S after all the jumpers were out?"
 
That buffed out.

I was thinking this would be more like what @T/O w/FSII 's post looked like: Pieces remain of the horizontal stab, or at least enough to remain somewhat controllable. An entire half missing just makes it sound like the thing damn near fell with style.

Maybe following a super hot jumper?

"I'd hit it."
 
What amazes me are the pilots who feel they know more about the capabilities of the aircraft than the people at Beech or Pratt. You know the type...limitations are suggestions and you don't exceed them if nobody else sees it happen. The think their experience supercedes a PhD in structures and metallurgy.

Those are the types who screw around and then leave a ticking time bomb for the next pilot, like this guy who lost the horizontal stab. Just because these reckless pilots haven't had an immediate failure during one of their adventures doesn't mean they haven't done damage to he aircraft. It just hasn't been found yet.
Yes, I know exactly the type. Hopefully aviation is mercifull and doesn't drive the point all the way down for them. And always respect thr aircraft, you never know...
 
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