Buying an older Cirrus

meritflyer

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I am in the market (or window shopping at least) for an airplane. The 2001/2002 Cirrus SR22s are priced at an incredible value.

I have heard some concern about buying an older generation Cirrus for various reasons but wanted to throw it to the crowd for review and coment.

Thoughts are appreciated.
 
That's funny. I wish any of the a/c I flew were that new!
Sorry. Worthless post to your thread.
 
I am in the market (or window shopping at least) for an airplane. The 2001/2002 Cirrus SR22s are priced at an incredible value.

I have heard some concern about buying an older generation Cirrus for various reasons but wanted to throw it to the crowd for review and coment.

Thoughts are appreciated.

I'll see what I can do about talking to our service center at landmark to see if there are any requiring problems w/ the airplane. I have no experience w/ the older ones but the avionics package for the price seems really good. I would spend the extra money to get the Avidyne MFD though.
 
like anyone can even know that

how much are beat ass Cirrii going for?

Nice, stay home and eat all the chips, Kip!

One big issue will be the 10 year chute repack, and I think there are engine mount issues with older 22s that don't have the 6 point engine mount. Can't remember the years though.
 
I'll see what I can do about talking to our service center at landmark to see if there are any requiring problems w/ the airplane. I have no experience w/ the older ones but the avionics package for the price seems really good. I would spend the extra money to get the Avidine MFD though.

I think I'd spend the money on either an Aspen refit, or a Garmin G500 refit. Don't put the money into a dying system. The G500 outfit, with a 430W, is crazy good, almost as good as the G1000. Either way seems like the way to get a fully glass panel Cirrus, for way less than the cost of a glass panel cirrus from the factory.

There are some listed in controller as low as around $150,000. That's really not a bad deal, considering its only an 7/8 year old plane.
 
I am in the market (or window shopping at least) for an airplane. The 2001/2002 Cirrus SR22s are priced at an incredible value.

I have heard some concern about buying an older generation Cirrus for various reasons but wanted to throw it to the crowd for review and coment.

Thoughts are appreciated.

there were no major problems with sr22s at the flight school I worked at, and they were used for training for some folks
 
Near as I know every cirrus ever delivered has a Avidyne MFD.


Sans the brand new "perspective" G1000 setups.

Some of the 2001/2002 models have the ARNAV MFD. I would however get a -22 w/ the Avidyne MFD and Sandel HSI. It looks like it would be 15k more. Most of the -22 cost 150k where the better avionics package cost 170k.
 
Near as I know every cirrus ever delivered has a Avidyne MFD.


Sans the brand new "perspective" G1000 setups.


As I recall a few of the early early ones had so many gremlins with the Avidyne that a few of them actually came with six packs, of course there was still the duel 430's.
 
Nice, stay home and eat all the chips, Kip!

One big issue will be the 10 year chute repack, and I think there are engine mount issues with older 22s that don't have the 6 point engine mount. Can't remember the years though.

There is also a 5 year bungy cord cutter replacement for the chute, and I have heard some NOT do this.... :(

Can I interest you in a 2004-20 with glass, and the 5 yr bungy cord replacement done???

Hey Andy you still flying????
 
....and pay more for a Pressurization/retract/turbo'd engine MX.
....and pay more for insurance on the GD parachute, with less payload, less space, and ADs that have yet to be worked out.......

Let me know when you are in the area, I will be passing you off your right side :D
 
An older steam-gauge -22 or -20 is a heck of a deal. About as fast as a new one, more payload and most of the bugs should have been worked out.

Downside is a lower level of interior fit/finish compared to the newer airplanes, not everybody loves the G1 doors (although I prefer them to the G2 and up door latches), lack of TKS (not a problem for folks who live in warmer climes) and the older style MCUs (big electrical box on the firewall) had some issues.

On the upside, if it's an older airplane that's been flown a bunch the MCU has probably already failed once or twice and been upgraded.

There will be the chute repack looming in a few years, which should run 10-15k if the rumors are correct. Line cutters should have been done already on the early ones, although I don't think they're terribly expensive, maybe $1,200 or so.

The early 4-point mounts are a little less smooth than the 6-point mounts but should still be plenty stout.

If you're thinking about upgrading an early model to WAAS, be forewarned, there's a bucket load of labor, hence cost, involved in properly reinforcing the body structure for the #2 GPS antenna.

On our 2000 -20, we wound up upgrading both 430s to WAAS but only upgrading the #1 antenna, leaving the #2 GPS antenna as was and placarding the #2 GPS, which wound up saving us a bundle.

If you're not a Cirrus Owners and Pilots Association member, it'd be worth the $35 to join and check out their forums. Those guys are waaay into their airplanes and you'd get an slew of informed (and plenty of uninformed) opinions.

And if you're serious, I know a guy looking to sell a TKS-equipped -22 with 1,400 hours on it for a really good price.
 
....and pay more for insurance on the GD parachute, with less payload, less space, and ADs that have yet to be worked out.......

Insurance isn't that bad on a -20 even when low (under 500TT), I bet he would really get a good price.



There will be the chute repack looming in a few years, which should run 10-15k if the rumors are correct. Line cutters should have been done already on the early ones, although I don't think they're terribly expensive, maybe $1,200 or so.

Actually I delayed the cutters and price went down in the past 6 months. I waited for the time to run out instead of doing it at annual. Not looking forward to a repack..
 
Downside is a lower level of interior fit/finish compared to the newer airplanes, not everybody loves the G1 doors (although I prefer them to the G2 and up door latches), lack of TKS (not a problem for folks who live in warmer climes) and the older style MCUs (big electrical box on the firewall) had some issues.


TKS is useless. Just stay out of the ice. It puts a bandaid on the ice, and a horrible one at that. What are you going to do when you run out of fluid? IIRC, on MAX, you only have either 15 or 30 mins of fluid. Shoot one approach to mins, and go missed, there is 10-12 mins, shoot another approach to mins, go missed, there is another 10-12 mins, now what?
 
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