Boeing's new Phantom Eye

Orange Anchor said:
NO I do not have direct experience but I do read. I understand that the British are still using its Canberra or have just retired it. And after attending a Global Hawk briefing it was made quite clear that manned aircraft are not really suitable for today's HALE missions, especially when we are talking about 4-10 day sorties.



subject, subject, subject.



I think the bolded summarizes your opinion quite succinctly.
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lol - Okay OA.

Good conversation.
 
surreal1221 said:
lol - Okay OA.

Good conversation.
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I have no doubt the mil/indus complex IS alive and well. I think the F-35 is a fairly good example of that but again, my info comes from what I read from those who have more knowledge than I do.

A very good friend of mine who was commander at Pax River way back has often summarized the process noting that it is not the best that winds up in the field but what Congress decides it wants. Actual needs be damned. (See new tanker competition). Once Congress decides what to give the soldier, it is up to the soldier to figure out how to make it useful and make it work. Even with best effort, sometimes some stuff never really works (See the A-5 Vigilante) He also said never fly the A model of anything and it is not until you get to the C model that you get what the A model promised.
 
Maybe it wasn't clear enough, so let me post it one more time :

"Rear Admiral John Stufflebeem, deputy director of operations for the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters that the B-52s were carpet bombing targets all over the country, including Taliban forces in the north."

Which part of this statement is unclear or leading to any kind of confusion regarding carpet bombing in Afghanistan ?

Now please back to topic, this is not the place for a sterile discussion over who did what.
 
Pépé le Pilot said:
Maybe it wasn't clear enough, so let me post it one more time :

"Rear Admiral John Stufflebeem, deputy director of operations for the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, told reporters that the B-52s were carpet bombing targets all over the country, including Taliban forces in the north."

Which part of this statement is unclear or leading to any kind of confusion regarding carpet bombing in Afghanistan ?
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Even if I give you that this was an accurate statement made 8 years ago, what does it have to do with your statement earlier in this thread about what is happening now, or what might be happening in future OEF operations?

Ergo, this one...

Pépé le Pilot said:
Maybe people should start accepting that you don't win a war by carpet-bombing everything, and that humint is at the heart of everything. Turning Afghanistan into a smoking car park will not solve the problem.
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...the statement to which all the replies were based.

That's not what we're doing. That's not what we're planning on doing.
 
Boris Badenov said:
Stop plundering the world's resources in order act like spoiled (fat, diabetic) children thereby causing every dirt farmer everywhere to want us all dead.

In all earnestness, ask yourself: What sort of "free" society needs to spy on everyone and everything to see whether they might be acting Against Us? Is that the White Hats?
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Look ma, another anti-American liberal!
 
MikeD said:
Probably one of the most ill-conceived and ignorant statements I've read here in a while.
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Come on, Mike! We all know about the top-secret F-117 carpet bombing missions you participated in over Iraq. Or, let's not forget the carpet bombing conducted in the A-10 too.

Stop denying it. ;)
 
Cruise said:
Come on, Mike! We all know about the top-secret F-117 carpet bombing missions you participated in over Iraq. Or, let's not forget the carpet bombing conducted in the A-10 too.

Stop denying it. ;)
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Don't forget the Tomahawk carpet bombing, or any number up the upgraded dumb bomb (to GPS guided bomb) used during the last 4 years.

It would seem to anyone who has worked in and around the US military, or its industrial complex, that the continued push toward pinpoint accuracy is a nail in the coffin for any carpet bombing campaigns. Perhaps I'm perceiving it wrong.
 
Orange Anchor said:
And why the USAF wants to field the GBU-39 Smart SMALL bomb.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/systems/munitions/sdb.htm

From what I have read, they can change the explosive charge in the bomb to make the KABOOM more of a kabang and take out Apartment 10E and not disturb 10D or 10F.. except maybe the red smear that oozes out from under the door.
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Yeah like the bombs we used to see in the old Bugs Bunny cartoons where it is going down the street, stops at the front door of the bad guy and knocks on the door before exploding../
 
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