Best single-engine airplane for the money question

I hear F16's go quite fast, and have only 1 engine. Not sure what the purchase price is though..................
 
Erik1010 said:
Malibus come with free glider instruction as an added bonus.
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Two thoughts:
1) They do have a glide ratio almost 12:1

2) I haven't seen any data that says the Mirages have that problem. The early Malibus (before they changed the engine and started calling it a Mirage) seem to be where the reputation comes from.
 
The TSIO520 Malibus had an atrocious engine failure record. The TSIO550 power plants are much more reliable and do make the Malibu/Mirage a good airframe if you can limbo into the front seats.

Read the NTSB reports, they're in there.
 
mshunter said:
While a Mooney might have 4 seats, to get that far, you're going to have a hard time taking two with any kind of baggage (tooth brushes and a sweatshirt). The A36 and C-210 seem to be your only option with the speed requirement. And even then, you are going to be far short of your speed goal. My vote goes for a Twin Comanche, even though it has more engines than you want. Prices real reasonable, redundancy of a spare engine and everything associated with it, and cheap to operate. With the money you'd save in aqusition cost, you could put that back into the insurance cost.
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I'm willing to stop halfway for gas. I'm not even sure the human bladders on board will make it non-stop.

As far as the 210 being far short, the T210N specs I looked at said 190-200 ktas. Is that incorrect?

Leaning toward M20R or RV10 at this point.
 
Erik1010 said:
BE36TN (the Bonanza lack baggage, but makes up for it with speed. 80 gallons of fuel with tip tank options. I could get 13-14 gal/hr LOP @ 167ktas 8000ft.):
http://www.controller.com/listingsd...AFT-A36-BONANZA-TURBO-NORMALIZED/1225437.htm?
A36TC (no cowl flaps which limits the climb out angle on warm days. 80 gallons of fuel with tip tank options):
http://www.controller.com/listingsd...ZA/1980-BEECHCRAFT-A36TC-BONANZA/1208983.htm?
B36TC (bigger wing. 108 gallons of fuel):
http://www.controller.com/listingsd...ZA/1984-BEECHCRAFT-B36TC-BONANZA/1228847.htm?
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I've read some warnings about the magnesium used for the Bonanza skin corroding. The V35B-TC models I've seen for sale do seem to be a good bargain apart from the $60,000 annual stories out there. Any experience with that?
 
If you are going to plan for all weather, know ice should be a strong recommendation. Better to have and not need, then not have and wish you did.
 
Erik1010 said:
The TSIO520 Malibus had an atrocious engine failure record. The TSIO550 power plants are much more reliable and do make the Malibu/Mirage a good airframe if you can limbo into the front seats.

Read the NTSB reports, they're in there.
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We said the same thing. The change from the TSIO520 to the TSIO540 was when the name changed.
 
P210 with boots or TKS has always been my dream plane.

Someday when you get rich you can convert it to a turbine. Turbine, Known ice, Pressurization, 215 knots on 21 GPH, 3000 FPM climb, Fly in the flight levels on every trip.
 
Correct you are. The control surfaces were made from magnesium to conserve weight, and they need to be looked at very carefully with a well known Beech mechanic. Much like every aircraft, the Bonanza has its faults; the magnesium control surfaces being one of them. I believe in 1974 (or close to it) the aircraft coming off the line were treated for corrosion.

60k for an annual?! He must of redone his engine, upholstery and and received a new paint job at the time of his annual.

Does the aircraft need to be Certified? A Lancair IV would exceed what you're looking for and you can get them for around 180-230.
 
The turbo 206 I've been flying the past 6 months has been fantastic. What it lacks in speed it makes up for in useful load. (it could theoretically hit 200KIAS, but getting up to FL240 would take a while)

I doubt I would own one, the economics of renting one were just so much better.

Mooney or Bonanza are probably the most cost effective options.
 
Erik1010 said:
Does the aircraft need to be Certified? A Lancair IV would exceed what you're looking for and you can get them for around 180-230.
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Lancair IV looks as though it must be like a souped up RV10. Do these specific kits have SOLs that allow them to fly IFR and in congested airspace (91.319)?
 
Hey, why no mention of the Columia/Cessna 400 yet? They're starting to get down in price and will do the 200ish kts you're looking for. I've flown a 400 from Sun Valley, ID to Amarillo, TX nonstop with 3 adults and bags. I've flown them from the Boise, ID area to STL, MSP, and MOB (BOI-MOB is over 1500 NM) and they are very comfortable for such trips. It does make for a long day of flying, but it's very doable. You'll get more useful load out of a C210, but a Columbia is way cooler.
 
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