Best pilot job website?

AGAIN, I'm not talking about his pay-to-play site. I get that.

But if his non-profit thing is legit, I don't see any reason why you'd want to ban links to it if it helped people find work.

A "not for profit" website doesn't need to go fishing (well, phishing) on other websites, to find "customers". I am a customer, well, er, guest, of Doug's living room, and I certainly did NOT find his website through a post on another website stating "come visit my website, it r0x0rz -- dough".

On the other hand, I have (and while he doesn't post here, he joined to look around) personally provided the name jetcareers.com to a friend of mine to get into networking with a great bunch of people.



P.S. Thank you Doug and Kristie, it's amazing what you provide for the aviation community. $15 to go to frakin' sweet (errr suite) at the Bellagio (not the MGM ;)).
 
Running JC for over a decade and 50,000-plus posts, I think I've made plenty of statements and I am absolutely stand firmly that we need to stop turning on other pilots for revenue streams in a time of a deep industry crisis.

Most of the guys that I know that frequent the jobs section of our forum are laid-off or furloughed. I couldn't imagine saying "Hey, I know you're out of a job, but give me some money and maybe I can help you find employment. And if you sign up for 90 days, you'll save over 20% over other aviation job sites, ACT NOW while supplies last!"

Ehh... That's not how I roll.

Keep in mind I started Jetcareers during the day when if you had a question about an issue like airline scheduling, your only alternatives were to as a guy at your guard unit (if you were military) or plunk down $100's of dollars for the Air Inc/Kit Darby/FAPA products.

I met Darby and asked him a question about age limits in the OCS and he kindly offered to give me a discount on his book. He couldn't simply say "Hey, you're under the maximum age to start UPT if selected", I was directed to plunk down $30 for a book with all the answers about careers in military aviation.

Hell, I was a starving CFI, and that was going to cost almost three hours of dual given and a little shocking because I was one of those guys that lived on Taco Bell's 49-cent bean burritos, much to my students chagrin.

There is absolutely no way in hell I'd charge a pilot looking for employment because would I be any better than Kit Darby that day when he suggested I buy his book instead of just saying "as long as you're not 27 yet" (or whatever it was at the time) and then I probably would have been motivated to buy the book at a later date once I had the money.

If we, as professional aviators, focus on helping one another attain our career goals we're going to be eventually be able to rebuild the industry into a profession that when our kids say "Daddy, I want to be a pilot like you", we can be proudly supportive - rather than "You're crazy. Go to medical school, then buy an airplane."

Many of my users I've met face-to-face, drank beer with, work(ed) with, visited in foreign countries or are on my speed dial on my telephone. The concept of having a monthly "cover charge" to find help is terrible.

Besides, I'm hoping that the guy I was able to help today, might be in a position to help me down the road.

:clap:To all that. :clap:

On a side note. I decided that I wanted to be a pilot at 15. Not sure how to go about it I asked a family "friend," who was a check airman for airline, what I should do to become a pilot. He laughed, "Give up. Unless you have family in the business or have access to an airplane you won't be able to get the experience or ratings to become a pilot. It's takes a lot of flight time and networking. Unless you means to those, it's hopeless." He was the only person I knew of that was a pilot. Like an idoit I believed him and went a different direction. It wasn't until 9 years later that started down the pilot road.

I think that this is a great website, not only to find jobs, but to give and get advice, insight, build networks and find the latest news (or rumors:)). And based on my early experience, I especially like seeing younger people investigating this profession.

Great site,
 
I was browsing for some other forums to chat on a few minutes ago, and came across one that CHARGED to chat. Yes, a forums that required a payment to chat. All I have to say is thanks Dough for makeing this site for the rest of us, and not being a d.b. and charging us just to sit around and chat.
 
:clap:To all that. :clap:

On a side note. I decided that I wanted to be a pilot at 15. Not sure how to go about it I asked a family "friend," who was a check airman for airline, what I should do to become a pilot. He laughed, "Give up. Unless you have family in the business or have access to an airplane you won't be able to get the experience or ratings to become a pilot. It's takes a lot of flight time and networking. Unless you means to those, it's hopeless." He was the only person I knew of that was a pilot. Like an idoit I believed him and went a different direction. It wasn't until 9 years later that started down the pilot road.

I think that this is a great website, not only to find jobs, but to give and get advice, insight, build networks and find the latest news (or rumors:)). And based on my early experience, I especially like seeing younger people investigating this profession.

Great site,

I wish someone had told me that before I got in this career. I could be making money right now! Now I'm stuck with a dream that i've invested too much in to give up.
 
all but 1 have been deleted due to spamming. that's why you can't see the other 3 posts anymore.

i don't think anyone ever suggested JC was "the only"....just that we don't think it's right to have to pay to try and find a job or spam the site without talking to the owner and going thru proper channels.


Just for record! We posted FREE MEMBERSHIPS on this site. Also, there was another fellow who posted the FREE MEMBERSHIP on this site. We were at the NBAA giving away FREE MEBERSHIPS to the site.

We even put the login code and email address on JC so everyone here could get the FREE MEMBERSHIP.

Doug deleted all of that information as well. That is why the other post do not show.
As far as the non profit. Just look in the trade publications. We have support from several large companies and they are funding the project.

We even PM and asked Doug for his support and never got an answer.

So there you have it!
 
Just for record! We posted FREE MEMBERSHIPS on this site. Also, there was another fellow who posted the FREE MEMBERSHIP on this site. We were at the NBAA giving away FREE MEBERSHIPS to the site.

We even put the login code and email address on JC so everyone here could get the FREE MEMBERSHIP.

Doug deleted all of that information as well. That is why the other post do not show.
As far as the non profit. Just look in the trade publications. We have support from several large companies and they are funding the project.

We even PM and asked Doug for his support and never got an answer.

So there you have it!

....
2. Do not spam the forum.
If you need traffic or want to plug your business or website, please contact advertising@jetcareers.com
.....We reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

http://forums.jetcareers.com/faq.php?faq=vb_faq#faq_rules

And There indeed, you have it!
 
Just for record!
....
2. Do not spam the forum.
If you need traffic or want to plug your business or website, please contact advertising@jetcareers.com
.....We reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

So there you have it!

for a seemingly smart guy, you sure don't get the message very well.

I am curious, what have you contributed to our community other than trying to get people from here to come look at your website?

You obviously have alot to offer. I bet, if you had taken the time to join and contribute to jetcareers.com, you would be in a much better position as far as being able to get the word out....something like this maybe....Hey you know that tagyourit guy? ...Yeah... He has a job site!... really!?! ...yeah and he offered those of us on jc a chance to join for free! ...really!?!?! ...yeah.... oh cool, he really knows alot about the aviation job market I remember when he posted in the jobs available thread, blah blah blah..

You know what I mean?


all we get is "hey you's guys...wanna buy a watch?"

Why don't you actually become a contributing member here, and then the natural networking will occur. After five posts, you are not a help to us, but are rapidly becoming a joke and a pain in the ass.

Get with the program or get lost.
 
Hey, you know that Tagyourit guy? He's just another sad product of our nation's miseducation system. "Your" is the possessive form of "you", indicating something which belongs to the subject. "You're" is a contraction of "You are".
 
Hey, you know that Tagyourit guy? He's just another sad product of our nation's miseducation system. "Your" is the possessive form of "you", indicating something which belongs to the subject. "You're" is a contraction of "You are".


It's a play on "wurds":laff:

Now without using Google, can you tell me what is Fermat's last theorem?

If not, then could that be "you're" a product of our nation's miseducation?

Rankism is putting oneself up and others down.
 
I wish someone had told me that before I got in this career. I could be making money right now! Now I'm stuck with a dream that i've invested too much in to give up.


Sometimes I tell myself that I should have followed that advice too. But I think I'd rather be where I am now then in another job with that big "If only I..."
 
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