Best experience: 135 Freight or CFI

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yeah, but if you are getting paid for doing it then its commercial flight for the PILOT... thats the focus of the rule. i am still confused.

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One more thought that might clarify this question further: the 135 regs are written for the protection of the customer, not the pilot. That is why the 135 flight time limitation regs do include the deadhead legs between 135 legs, but do not cover the end-of-day deadhead leg (no further potential impact on the safety of flight for paying customers). The same is true of the rest time requirement as I stated previously - it looks back to make sure you've had 10 hours of "rest" since your last "commercial" flying, not just 135 flying since you will now be carrying "the public"again, and they are entitled to a higher level of safety. The assumption is that a pilot can make the go/no-go decision for himself and can assume a higher level of risk for himself based on his own analysis of the situation, while the public, being untrained in aviation, must have safeguards built into the system for their protection.
 
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I'm wondering how you plan on meeting the 1200 hour minimum to fly single pilot IFR under part 135 without being a CFI.

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Could do 135 VFR at 500 hours until the 1200.

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just out of curiosity do you know of any companies that do this? im sure they are out there but i haven't been able to find any.
 
Louie,

I got lucky this way.

The company I work for (Redding Aero Enterprises) hired me VFR only at around 950 hours. This is not a company practice. However it was May and the UPS run was a route that in summer is always VFR and so I flew this route for the summer. I hit my IFR mins in August of last year, got checked out for IFR and USED it only a week later.

In my experience, getting on 135 with VFR mins in the freight world is kinda tough. I consider myself a rare case and I will say, without SAYING, that there were a few times when... well... I wished I was a 1200 hour dude.

As to the original post: I did CFI-I work last winter WHILE being a 135 freight dog. I loved it. I loved having the confidence that day-to-day proficiency brings and being able to take that to the few select instrument students I had last year.

DeanR
 
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I'm wondering how you plan on meeting the 1200 hour minimum to fly single pilot IFR under part 135 without being a CFI.

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Could do 135 VFR at 500 hours until the 1200.

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just out of curiosity do you know of any companies that do this? im sure they are out there but i haven't been able to find any.

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Yeah, I got hired at 550 hrs with San Juan Airlines (a pax 135 VFR airline) and built the time up to 1200 there. I learned so much and became quite the MVFR pilot!!! I wouldn't have done it any other way though.
 
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I'm wondering how you plan on meeting the 1200 hour minimum to fly single pilot IFR under part 135 without being a CFI.

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Could do 135 VFR at 500 hours until the 1200.

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just out of curiosity do you know of any companies that do this? im sure they are out there but i haven't been able to find any.

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Yeah, I got hired at 550 hrs with San Juan Airlines (a pax 135 VFR airline) and built the time up to 1200 there. I learned so much and became quite the MVFR pilot!!! I wouldn't have done it any other way though.

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I PM'd you. I've been trying to get the gouge on them for some time. Welcome to JC!

Edit: And I see you now are with Ameriflight. You're following my ideal career path! How about if I just take over each job when you move on to bigger and better things?
 
CFI or 135

New to this site and loving it. Lots of learning to be done and thanks to everyone sharing their experience in the different fields. Aviation is definitely the profession where we never get to know it all, or at least should have that attitude.

Though I am not a CFI, (plan on getting it one of these days) I do have a lot of respect for them and can see that it will definetely help in the CRM environment. Do keep in mind that as a CFI you are always with "someone" who is actually doing most of the flying, not you. As a freightdog, you do the flying.

Without a doubt, being a freightdog has been one of the most rewarding experiences in my flying career and you learn your personal limits (as well as aircraft). Previously mentioned, getting in the soup is the best way to sharpen the skills that you'll need even in the 121 arena when you have lots of MEL's and when you have system failures once in a while. Been there, done that too.

As to VFR 135, there are many companies out there that will do "traffic watch" and will take low time pilots. Flight Express - at least, used to do that. I believe there are some flight schools that also have their aircraft for rent to t.v. and radio stations to do this type of work as well. Best of luck and keep the greasy side down. (Not applicable to turboprops).
 
EatSleepFly said:
Yeah, but the dirty, half paintless, ugly ones fly the best!

hey, do chipped up dented aerofoil surfaces provide the same positive flight dynamics as having VG's??
 
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