Beech Staggerwing

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Got a guy who's inquired about receiving some dual instruction in a Beech Staggerwing.

I've never sat in one, can anybody give me a run-down on the flight characteristics?
 
well...you are further away from the ground now ;)
does that mean you don't like it? I would happyly switch with you...
 
Almost got in one once. I remember the gotchas were the brakes, the tailwheel lock and NO side-loading the gear... I remember the guy telling me "just land it like a Howard, but remember to put the gear down..."

Didn't help much, since I never flew a Howard....:confused2:

Good Luck!:D

WacoFan might be some help..... He plays with round engines, wood and fabric.
 
Hm. According to a 7 page long topic on the AOPA forum it is ILLEGAL and STUUUPID for you to instruct in a plane that you've never flown before. The best you can do is log it as SIC, duh.

I'm not trying to be a smart boot hole to the OP, but this seems obvious...

How can you instruct in something you've never sat in. Especially someone else's airplane. Basically you are both first timers up there and I wouldn't want the liability of possibly messing up someone's plane unless I had globs of time in type. Just my opinion...which means squat by the way.
 
I'm not trying to be a smart boot hole to the OP, but this seems obvious...

How can you instruct in something you've never sat in. Especially someone else's airplane. Basically you are both first timers up there and I wouldn't want the liability of possibly messing up someone's plane unless I had globs of time in type. Just my opinion...which means squat by the way.


Joking/missing sarcasm tag, or serious question?
 
How can you instruct in something you've never sat in? Especially someone else's airplane? Basically you are both first timers up there .....

There is no regulation requiring you to have any time in the make or model as a CFI. The 5 hour requirement for multi engines and helicopters is for training toward a certificate or rating only.

How does this apply to the average CFI you ask? Typically in the form of giving a flight review to someone who owns their own plane. They are presumably competent and know everything they need to know about their own plane, and all you as a CFI need to do is to evaluate their knowledge and airmanship. Also any competent CFI should be able to fly most conventional light airplanes. I once did a BFR for a guy in his Piper Apache despite having never flown one.

OTOH, if I were asked to instruct a primary student in an airplane I had never flown before, I would require a few hours of flight time for myself to get comfortable in that model.
 
I'm not trying to be a smart boot hole to the OP, but this seems obvious...

How can you instruct in something you've never sat in. Especially someone else's airplane. Basically you are both first timers up there and I wouldn't want the liability of possibly messing up someone's plane unless I had globs of time in type. Just my opinion...which means squat by the way.

Easy. You read a book or two, use your experience. Learn the limitations. Talk to someone who has a few hours in it. Go fly it, figure it out. Then start teaching what you learned.

I didn't know jack about a Great Lakes when my acro student bought one. But I was able to talk to the right people, figure it out and teach him. Good times in the front seat.

Another time I had a primary student who bought a Scout to fly out of his own 800ft strip on his ranch. That means I had to teach him how to land there from the back seat. I had about an hour in a Scout. I got in solo and flew a few laps from the front, then stuck him up front and did a few landings from the back. Good to go.

As far as small planes go, an airplane really is an airplane. They all pretty much do the same thing. Eventually you know what to expect just by looking at it. It's power to weight ratio will give you a rough idea of what kind of performance to expect. Know the fuel system, and you're good to go.
 
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